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To: Mark Felton

This is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard of. Governments intentions will produce the opposite of it's results. We'll be sending the best and brightest right back to the Chinese military. Let's keep the brain drain coming to the United States! (as it's always been)


9 posted on 11/24/2005 7:25:06 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: traviskicks; doug from upland; Jeff Head; Travis McGee
Let's keep the brain drain coming to the United States! (as it's always been)

This shows a dated understanding of what is currently going on. I, for one, am pleased to see that Congress is finally waking up to the invasion and the destruction of a loyal technology personnel base...and the need to stem it. The Chinese influx comes not just straight from the Mainland, but often a number of intermediary stops along the way. Whereever these Chinese agents are coming from, they need to be shut down. The policies of blindered, incompetent, globalism are finally being replaced by enlightened national security interest. You appear devoid of national security understanding. Your unwarranted love of expediency shows a profound short-sightedness.

We'll be sending the best and brightest right back to the Chinese military.

This is where they go RIGHT NOW, but AFTER we have fully trained them and funded them in the state-of-the-art in the United States...leaving our technology advantage at zero. In fact worse than zero...because you don't recognize that when they DO go back to China as they are...they leave gaping holes in the U.S. technology infrastructure that could and should have been filled by U.S. citizens...but were foregone for ephemeral pay savings by short-sighted and unpatriotic imbeciles running the corporate megaliths. It also ignores the hazard of those who remain being a continuous conduit of intell for the enemy, plus, potentially active saboteurs whose affirmative sabotage of engineering could be devastating. Depending on Fifth Columnists at the engineering level is truly a dangerous development.

Take a look at this recent report, which comes at the issue from a slightly different perspective, sympathetic to supposed innocents in this pending correction:

Some H1B Visa Holders Finding the USA 'Welcome Mat' Torn and Frayed

GCG Worldwide, an internationally known Consulting group, shares insight in a recent White Paper about the road frequently traveled by H1B Visa Holders, who come to the USA at the request and support of an employer, but find the road is not paved with gold…or even paved, in some cases.

Bristol, TN (PRWEB) November 25, 2005 -- Recent surveys and anecdotal stories shared by clients paint a somber story; H1B Visa Holders, brought to the USA and promised both equal treatment and equal opportunity are finding it more and more difficult to live happily in a land where, quite honestly, the natives are getting more and more restless. With recent major announcements of major corporate layoffs in the thousands and another round of downsizings appearing just around the corner, the proverbial “Give me your tired huddled masses” may seem to be ‘pie in the sky’ for H1B Visa Immigrants here in the USA.

"With the world heading more and more toward "one world" development, production and consumption, it's not surprising that some group will find itself left out in the cold," says Alan Guinn, Managing Director and CEO of GCG. "What we're finding so surprising is the fact that this is not happening just in one area, or in one industry, but is happening in so many different areas and industries."

Historically, H1B Visa workers have been focused in the IT industries and post-Internet and .com meltdown, it’s been more and more difficult for them to keep a job from one year to the next. "First found, first hired, first fired," says Guinn. "The difference is that if they don’t have a job, they may or may not find something else. They generally go back home."

New approaches to dealing with salaries, guarantees and work product of H1B Visa workers are growing to address their needs. Saga Consulting Services, of Pittsburgh and Houston, has developed a marketing program specifically to address the issue. "As a part of our 'Saga Economy' approach, we strive to surface issues that are evident, and resolve challenges before they become challenges. Cognizance is our byword," says Kashif Aftab, VP of Saga. "We help the stakeholder make modifications to his or her expectations."

Employers have found that when you can hire a foreign worker just by sponsoring a work visa and then pay them at 50% or less of the generally acceptable wage rate, significantly expansion of corporate profits can occur. Generally speaking, they would not consider hiring an American worker to whom they would have to pay much higher wages with additional, added benefits. Hence, the employer thus takes advantage of the situation and the H1B Visa holder keeps his silence since he either does not know any better or he must worry about his work Visa sponsorship.

Action pending in Congress may address inequities, but for some H1B Visa holders, it may be too little, too late. "We brought them here on a promise and a prayer" says Guinn, "but we may send them back with dashed dreams and broken spirits."

COMMENT: Aw, gee, the poor Chi-Comm spies have to leave without any further progress on stealing us blind....

And How many times have we heard the free traitors here at Free Republic supporting the NEED for H-1B's in the U.S. defend that the hirings were at the prevailing wages. Now, even the BODY shops and Consulting services are confessing the actual situation, that major deception is being practiced. That labor arbitrage is in full hurricane mode. And that the pay is often at only 50% of the U.S. labor...which is even worse than generally reported .

The scope of the Chinese espionage/sabotage threat is so vast, that the only really effective approach is outright expulsion, with the only exception being those who defect for fear of political persecution, and those need be handled on a case-by-case basis...and even then for safety, they should be then guided into technology areas where they cannot compromise U.S. security.

25 posted on 11/25/2005 10:08:50 AM PST by Paul Ross ("The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the govt and I'm here to help)
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