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Laureates seek clemency for Death Row inmate [Tookie Williams]
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/24/5 | Lynda Gledhill

Posted on 11/24/2005 6:29:21 PM PST by SmithL

Sacramento -- A bevy of Nobel laureates and celebrities have written a letter urging Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to commute the death sentence of Stanley Tookie Williams, himself a Nobel Peace Prize nominee.

Williams, 51, the co-founder of the Crips gang convicted of four 1979 murders, is scheduled to be executed at San Quentin State Prison on Dec. 13.

The letter praises Williams' work as an anti-gang crusader, including writing children's books.

"Each year at the holiday season voices the world over cry out for peace," states the letter to the governor. "This year, one of them, a voice of great power, will be lost unless you act."

Among the signatories of the letter are Nobel Laureates Archbishop Desmond Tutu; Irene Kahn, secretary general of Amnesty International; and Mairead Corrigan Maguire, who founded the Community of the Peace People in 1976.

Among the celebrities who signed the letter are Jason Alexander, Jackson Browne, Russell Crowe, Carl Reiner and Susan Sarandon.

Kerry Kennedy Cuomo, with the Human Rights Center of the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial, also signed the letter. She is a cousin of Schwarzenegger's wife, Maria Shriver.

On Monday, civil rights activists Jesse Jackson and Bianca Jagger visited Williams at San Quentin. His case has become a cause for many activists.

"Through his work, gang truces have been mediated, and long-standing wounds have been healed," the letter states. "Lives have been saved."

Williams has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize each year since 2000, initially by a member of the Swiss parliament and more recently by a Bay Area philosophy professor.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; leftistidiots; leftistweenies; leftistwhiners; nobelnominee; tookie; tookiemustdie; tookiewilliams
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There is a bio of "Tookie" at www.knowgangs.com.
I cant get the link to work..


141 posted on 11/25/2005 12:49:32 AM PST by Paulus
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To: wardaddy
There's a difference between calculating sociopaths and people who committed a murder because a situation got out of hand. The former are evil as evil can be and the latter are evil because they didn't take the time not to overstep their bounds. Williams is the former and let me tell you, all the books he's written count for squat. His personal life was filled with sheer bloodlust, depravity and violence. I can't wait to see him draw his last breath so meaning can be restored to the lives he took, the souls that have been waiting patiently for justice all these years.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

142 posted on 11/25/2005 12:52:22 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: little jeremiah
No homocide bomber blows up his victims a second time. Its too bad offal like Al Zarqawi's murder squads couldn't be erased from existence without more innocent people being murdered in the process. That's why we need to deal harshly with murderers or a lot more innocent people will needlessly die.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

143 posted on 11/25/2005 12:55:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: little jeremiah
To quote from the Talmud, "Those who are merciful to the cruel, will be cruel to the merciful." I despise the mercy of fools.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

144 posted on 11/25/2005 12:56:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Hexenhammer

Are you kidding? Nobel laureates? Where do the Nobel prizes originate? Stockholm Sweden? Is that the same Stockholm after which the Syndrome is named? By gosh I think these Laureate Idiots are infected with the stockholm Syndrome by Proxy. If he had Murdered a few of them they would be even more fervent. Go figure!

Sorry I am not taking off on you, I just needed to say that.


145 posted on 11/25/2005 1:05:05 AM PST by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best man available, have finally borne fruit with Alito's nomination.)
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To: rock58seg
The Nobel Prize was awarded to a terrorist. That somehow makes it sublime? I don't think so and I haven't the slightest regard for intellectuals' opinion. They don't live in the real world.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

146 posted on 11/25/2005 1:09:15 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

That's a wise statement from the Talmud. I want a copy of the Talmud.


147 posted on 11/25/2005 1:15:29 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Melas

The reason I asked is not your reference to the gulliotine, but your reference to the Eighth Amendment and the Founding Fathers. I would have understood your statement better if you hadn't also thrown in the Eighth Amendment. Of course, people seem less interested in what they thought in general. But, what were their thoughts on capital punishment? I do not know that they were against capital punishment...it was pretty much accepted that it was right to do. Many people today either do not believe that or side with bleeding heart liberals because "...it seems right to oppose it...I think..." or thoughts along those lines.


148 posted on 11/25/2005 3:55:35 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: little jeremiah; goldstategop

Good gosh folks. I said I "COULD" forgive him, which assumes that I or one of my relatives were victimized by him in some way. I didn't say I DO forgive him.

It is a suppositional position. Saying "I could" and saying "I can" are light years apart.


149 posted on 11/25/2005 3:58:57 AM PST by rlmorel
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To: little jeremiah

And by the way-I am a supporter of capital punishment, and not always the use of something as nice as lethal injection, which for some people, is too nice of a ticket out.


150 posted on 11/25/2005 4:05:47 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: SmithL

How meaningful is a "Nobel Laureate"? Since Nobel was a munitions maker, it puts me in mind of Jesus saying the persecutors' sons build monuments to the prophets their fathers murdered.


151 posted on 11/25/2005 4:31:51 AM PST by RoadTest (I am come - - that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.)
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To: Havoc
"If the law has created a person worthy of being on our streets, where is the justice and sense in killing what you intended."

The sense is that he murdered people and was sentenced to death for it! Who cares what kind of person he may or not be today? That has nothing to do with it. If every convicted murderer claims a "jailhouse conversion", should we change the sentence? I am always amazed on how many allies the criminals get defending them, and no one stands for the victims anymore. I certainly disagree with you sir.

152 posted on 11/25/2005 4:33:58 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Melas

Putting that in your will would be the only way to let posterity know.


153 posted on 11/25/2005 4:39:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Czar; All
Before indulging in weepy eyed handwringing for this lowest of the the low lifes, you need to do your homework on "Tookie".

You are correct. I have not done homework on "Tookie."

I simply stated that IF he has reformed, clemency of the death penalty may be in order. But if not, let the ruling stand.

If true that he has not confessed, planned armed escapes from prison, etc., they he should get the chair.

There was not any idnulgement in weepy eyed hand-wringing on my part. I only read the headline, skimmed the article, posted my first thoughts and went to bed and forgot about it until this morning when I awoke to several angry responses. lol

155 posted on 11/25/2005 6:02:06 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Nothing like flames first thing in the morning, huh?

A spirited debate, to say the least.

Have a good one! :)


156 posted on 11/25/2005 6:49:14 AM PST by digger48
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To: SmithL

no consequenses for the murder of innocent victims. and they are actually justifying this...wow. maybe we should put all these advocates in jail with tookie and arm tookie?????


157 posted on 11/25/2005 6:51:34 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: infowarrior
I have read numerous articles on this and like you and everyone else I do not know the real truth. I was only making a point and if she stays in jail it will not bother me. By the way I have read on several occasions that Van Houten actually stabbed people after they were dead so she would also be complicit. My point was that Hollywood protects their own and to hell with everyone else. They try to free the police killer of Daniel Faulkner and everyone else who kills police officers and yet keep people like Van Houten in jail. (Personally I thought all of Mansons gang should have been executed.) I have watched several of her parole hearings and I have never seen a group or an orchestrated effort to really free her and I really believe she is a political prisoner as much as I hate to say it.
158 posted on 11/25/2005 7:17:22 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: rlmorel

I got a little ouf of hand last night. I'm just a fervent supporter of the death penalty for people who commit murder and some other crimes. It's actually mercy for them as well. So I apoligize if I slammed you! Just got carried away.

:-)


159 posted on 11/25/2005 8:53:58 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Mr. Brightside

Well well, stick around FR! If you manage the barrage that came your way with good cheer, you'll handle anything!


160 posted on 11/25/2005 8:55:31 AM PST by little jeremiah
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