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Drug quandaries -
City-Journal ^ | November 21, 2oo5 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 11/24/2005 2:15:00 PM PST by UnklGene

Drug Quandaries -

Dutch officials don’t know what to do about Holland’s drug culture. | 21 November 2005

Near the Ministry of Justice in the Hague, and visible from its windows, is an area of the Dutch capital where many of the unemployed grow marijuana for a living. While continuing to receive about $1,200 per month from the state for doing nothing, they earn up to $6,000 a month as well (tax free, of course) by cultivating pot in their apartments. The easy money, observers report, has reduced the crime rate.

It still isn’t legal in Holland to grow or to sell marijuana, but apart from occasional police raids, not much effort goes into suppressing the trade. Such prosecutions as there are result in confiscation of the horticultural equipment (which the drug-dealers replace within the week) and an easily affordable $1,200 fine.

The minister of justice does not like the trade but is in a quandary about how to respond. Three possible courses of action present themselves: to take serious measures to suppress the trade; to legalize it, either by creating a state monopoly or by allowing anyone to grow and sell the drug; or to allow the present situation to continue. All three have their inconveniences.

Suppression would drive up the price of marijuana, reinforcing the motive for breaking the law. The increased risk of growing marijuana might easily spark a resurgence of gangsterism; and people deprived of their easy income by enforcement of the law might turn to more harmful or visible types of crime to maintain their now accustomed standard of living.

The legalization of the cultivation and distribution of marijuana in turn would drive down the price and deprive the unemployed of much of their income, drastically reducing their now accustomed standard of living. Thus it too might produce not a decrease but an increase of serious crime.

The inconveniences of allowing the present state of affairs to continue are less tangible but also considerable. No doubt laws have always been on the books whose purpose is more to promote discretion among those who break their precepts than to enforce strict adherence; but widespread, open, and profitable lawbreaking will before long exert a corrupting effect upon the whole of society. If the state winks at large incomes procured by what it still considers to be criminal activity, why should anyone feel obliged to obey the law? The minister of justice does not think that the state should allow its least educated, productive, and respectable class to defy it.

Furthermore, those who cultivate and sell marijuana earn far more than they possibly could make by honest labor. Thus honest labor loses value. Indeed, anyone who lives in a marijuana-growing area and who dedicates himself to honest labor (for which he will receive perhaps a third of what he would receive for watching his marijuana grow) is likely to face disdain, appearing as a complete fool. Money corrupts, no doubt, but easy money corrupts absolutely.

I am glad I am not the Dutch minister of justice.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: cannabis; marijuana; warondrugs; wod; wodlist
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1 posted on 11/24/2005 2:15:00 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: UnklGene

All these problems arise from the Dutch policy of tolerance toward drugs, pornography, euthanasia, and all the rest of the culture of death and nihilism. Once you have tolerated it for a period of years, it's very hard to get rid of it.

We noticed this general atmosphere in Holland at least 30 years ago, when we visited Amsterdam. So it's had a long time to grow deep roots.

Maybe it would have been better not to let this happen in the first place.


2 posted on 11/24/2005 2:27:51 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: UnklGene

And Oh how the europeans were lauded by the left for their progressive drug policies. looks like it is coming back to haunt them.


3 posted on 11/24/2005 2:28:31 PM PST by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: UnklGene

Interesting...nothing at all in the debate about the legitimate powers of government or whether or not Pot is actually harmful... a very odd country.


4 posted on 11/24/2005 2:28:59 PM PST by gondramB
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To: UnklGene
Apparently it hasn't even occurred to the Dutch that they should lock up their criminals. If their criminals were in jail, they wouldn't be on the street drawing welfare and committing crimes.
5 posted on 11/24/2005 2:33:37 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: gondramB

Yup. There's a good reason China cracked down on Opium use. Turns all your worker bees into parasites.


6 posted on 11/24/2005 2:42:33 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: commonasdirt

Haunt them? The article recognizes the status quo is a good thing. Just don't scare the horses, and we'll live with being unemployed and have a lower crime rate.


7 posted on 11/24/2005 2:43:53 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Fenris6

You'd have loved American prohibition. Opium, booze, grass, it's all the same. Right?


8 posted on 11/24/2005 2:45:01 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: DJ Taylor; Wolfie
Apparently it hasn't even occurred to the Dutch that they should lock up their criminals.

Yep, that's the trick. Spend $k a month, to save a grand... Sound fiscal gumt policy, I'd say! /sarcasm

Smoking pot is criminal, because of people like you! Go drink another 12 pack...

9 posted on 11/24/2005 2:46:50 PM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: gcruse

Study some Chineese history before you play that card.


10 posted on 11/24/2005 2:47:15 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

Study a little pharmacology before equating marijuana to opium.


11 posted on 11/24/2005 2:49:34 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: pageonetoo
"Smoking pot is criminal, because of people like you! Go drink another 12 pack..."

It also appears that all of our criminals haven't been locked up as yet either, but we're working on it.

12 posted on 11/24/2005 2:53:06 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: UnklGene

Perhaps if the government provided free pot to known liberals, they would shut up.


13 posted on 11/24/2005 2:53:08 PM PST by Fielding ( "OTHERS HAVE DIED FOR MY FREEDOM. NOW THIS IS MY MARK." "Cpl. Jeffrey B. Starr")
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To: DJ Taylor
It also appears that all of our criminals haven't been locked up as yet either, but we're working on it.

Apparently you think there is something evil about wanting marijuana legal. Please educate me, with facts, that it is any worse than a bottle of scotch, or Limbaughs use of oxycontin, and should not be allowed for personal consumption (medical or recreational).

14 posted on 11/24/2005 3:01:04 PM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: gcruse

I didn't equate opium to marijuana.


15 posted on 11/24/2005 3:03:11 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: pageonetoo
Please educate me, with facts, that it is any worse than a bottle of scotch, or Limbaughs use of oxycontin, and should not be allowed for personal consumption (medical or recreational).

There's no way to track abuse. Show me a cheap way [like breath-a-lyzer] for cops to determine if you are under the influence. Until then, its stupid to legalize the drug.

16 posted on 11/24/2005 3:04:55 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: DJ Taylor
Apparently it hasn't even occurred to the Dutch that they should lock up their criminals.

And it apparently doesn't occur to Americans, that, for all their "love of freedom", they still don't give people the freedom to smoke pot.

17 posted on 11/24/2005 3:07:13 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: Fenris6
There's no way to track abuse. Show me a cheap way [like breath-a-lyzer] for cops to determine if you are under the influence. Until then, its stupid to legalize the drug.

There'd probably be fewer accidents with pot if people switched to that from alcohol.

18 posted on 11/24/2005 3:09:33 PM PST by mc6809e
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And it apparently doesn't occur to Americans, that, for all their "love of freedom", they still don't give people the freedom to smoke pot

Or crack. Or cocaine.

19 posted on 11/24/2005 3:09:54 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: UnklGene

The problem is, if they are making money from growing, they aren't unemployed and shouldn't be getting money from their socialist nanny-government.


20 posted on 11/24/2005 3:14:20 PM PST by Bones75
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