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You go, Rudy!
1 posted on 11/24/2005 1:47:04 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Sounds like that guy has waaay too much time on his hands....oh wait, he's a prisoner.


2 posted on 11/24/2005 1:48:42 PM PST by durasell
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

So the 7th Circuit Court decision will mean that places where atheists gather will be tax exempt, because it is "a religion"? That will be the next step.


3 posted on 11/24/2005 1:54:46 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Stupidity has no bounds!


4 posted on 11/24/2005 2:04:30 PM PST by nikola
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[According to the court, "Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being."]


But according to SMART people, atheism is not a religion.
5 posted on 11/24/2005 2:04:37 PM PST by spinestein (All journalists today are paid advocates for someone's agenda.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Geee, you can take one's life, property or liberty but you can't prevent them from forming a prayer group? Something awfully screwy about this line of logic.




6 posted on 11/24/2005 2:12:11 PM PST by AZRepublican
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"Up is down, and atheism, the antithesis of religion, is religion."

Seems this statement says it all (at least for me). Scientology is also referred to as a "religion" by some.
8 posted on 11/24/2005 2:13:00 PM PST by stm
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

That's oK. It doesn't matter because Evolution is only a Theory, it's not a Law.


9 posted on 11/24/2005 2:13:57 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Actually the court has no jurisdiction to make this ruling. See: A Dummies Guide to Understanding the Fourteenth Amendment

I should post this outstanding treatise on the Fourteenth Amendment to FR. It is a real eye opener and full of valuable facts most do not know.

10 posted on 11/24/2005 2:17:10 PM PST by AZRepublican
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Evolution is un-constitutional? What's next? Newton's laws? Gravity? Thermodynamics? I think the "secular humanists" believe in those also...


11 posted on 11/24/2005 2:19:50 PM PST by razorgirl
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"Atheism is [the inmate's] religion,

It takes an Atheist to build a prison population.

Now there is an opportunity for a best seller.

12 posted on 11/24/2005 2:19:52 PM PST by EGPWS
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I think we're missing his point:

"Because non-religion is now a religion, the Establishment Clause of the Constitution now requires all court houses in the United States to publicly display a copy of the Ten Commandments. When religion was defined simply as a belief in God, it was unconstitutional to display religious monuments anywhere near court houses. However, the absence of God has also become a religion. At best, the amount of space in court houses filled by religious paraphernalia will have to be equal to the amount of space without any religious things."


14 posted on 11/24/2005 2:43:42 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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Evolution must be a religion because I see those fish with feet and Darwin written inside the fish on cars all the time.


15 posted on 11/24/2005 2:46:42 PM PST by microgood
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I do not believe eating unbleached peanut husks will grant eternal life. According to this reasoning, that's a religion?


16 posted on 11/24/2005 2:56:18 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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First, religious believers would try to say the atheism was a belief system itself and atheists would say, no it's not, it's the ABSENCE of belief. But here, thanks to these, courts ruling, everyone's arguing visa versa! So which is it, everybody?? Stop basing your reasoning happens to support your contention at this particular moment. Is atheism a belief or the absence of belief? Both sides should pick one and stick to it.


19 posted on 11/24/2005 3:24:01 PM PST by marsh_of_mists
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20 posted on 11/24/2005 3:33:21 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Evolution is not a religious belief. It is a scientific theory.

In other words, it is something that some people (I'll note myself) believe in. However, that belief doesn't stem from any sort of religious system. It stems from observation of the world around us, just like the belief that ice is cold and the sun sets in the west. Many christians believe that the sun sets in the west. That must mean that it is a christian belief! If you tell anybody which direction the sun is setting in, then you must be preaching the word! See the problem with this article's logic yet?


22 posted on 11/24/2005 3:45:28 PM PST by durh
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Sillier and sillier.

Evolution is a religion, so you can't teach it in schools.

ID is not a religion, so you have to teach it in schools.

Sorry, but we are not all as dumb as you might hope.

Does any of this stem from The Wedge Strategy of the Center for the Renewal of Science & Culture?

But I could be wrong; if so, here's a little sample of the real old time religion...

Figure 1.4.4. Fossil hominid skulls. Some of the figures have been modified for ease of comparison (only left-right mirroring or removal of a jawbone). (Images © 2000 Smithsonian Institution.)


23 posted on 11/24/2005 7:53:19 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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"Up is down, and atheism, the antithesis of religion, is religion."

For once I agree with the AFA. This is what you get when you let judges decide real-world factual issues instead of simply what the law is.

24 posted on 11/29/2005 7:20:22 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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That is, without a doubt, the most asinine argument I've seen yet.


26 posted on 12/25/2005 12:57:00 AM PST by jess35
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Bump!!


28 posted on 12/25/2005 1:07:56 AM PST by balch3
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