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Chinese hackers breach US military defences: Uncle Sam hacks back in counter attack...
Silicon.com ^ | November 24, 2005 | Tom Espiner

Posted on 11/24/2005 12:30:04 PM PST by billorites

Security experts have revealed tantalising details about a group of Chinese hackers who are suspected of launching intelligence gathering attacks against the US government.

The hackers, who are believed to be based in the Chinese province of Guangdong, are thought to have stolen US military secrets, including aviation specifications and flight-planning software.

The US government has coined the term 'Titan Rain' to describe the hackers.

Alan Paller, director of the SANS Institute, said: "From the Redstone Arsenal, home to the Army Aviation and Missile Command, the attackers grabbed specs for the aviation mission-planning system for Army helicopters, as well as Falconview 3.2, the flight-planning software used by the Army and Air Force."

The team is thought to consist of 20 hackers. Paller claimed the Chinese government was the most likely recipient of the information they intercepted.

He told an event at the Department of Trade and Industry on Tuesday: "Of course it's the government. Governments will pay anything for control of other governments' computers. All governments will pay anything. It's so much better than tapping a phone."

Titan Rain first came to public attention this summer, when the Washington Post reported that websites in China were being used to target computer networks in the Defense Department and other US agencies.

Time later reported that Titan Rain had been counter-hacked by a US security expert called Shawn Carpenter.

The attacks, which are ongoing, were particularly effective on the night of 1 November, 2004, said Paller, who outlined how the hackers first scanned then broke into US government computers.

At 22:23(PST) the Titan Rain hackers exploited vulnerabilities at the US Army Information Systems Engineering Command at Fort Huachuca, Arizona. A few hours later, at 01:19(PST), they exploited the same hole in computers at the Defense Information Systems Agency in Arlington, Virginia.

By 03:25(PST) they had hit the Naval Ocean Systems Center, a Defense Department installation in San Diego, California. Then at 04:46(PST) they struck again - this time at the United States Army Space and Strategic Defense installation in Huntsville, Alabama.

The UK is also under intelligence-gathering cyber attack from the far east, according to the National Infrastructure Security Co-ordination Centre (NISCC). The government body cannot name the countries concerned as this may "ruin diplomatic efforts to halt the attacks", NISCC director Roger Cummings said on Tuesday.


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To: stolat

You utilize a hardware firewall, software firewall, and if you run on the WIN9x kernel, unbind the TCPIP stack. See Gibson Research, and get rid of the WIN9x kernel. And never install the virus called AOL.


21 posted on 11/24/2005 1:19:37 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: ridesthemiles
"I know Clinton is not innocent on this topic"

The attacks, which are ongoing, were particularly effective on the night of 1 November, 2004, said Paller, who outlined how the hackers first scanned then broke into US government computers. At 22:23(PST) the Titan Rain hackers exploited vulnerabilities at the US Army Information Systems Engineering Command at Fort Huachuca, Arizona. A few hours later, at 01:19(PST), they exploited the same hole in computers at the Defense Information Systems Agency in Arlington, Virginia.

22 posted on 11/24/2005 1:21:23 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: billorites
I thought the Government had its own separate internet.
23 posted on 11/24/2005 1:30:32 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Rebelbase

They didn't get to the Top Secret networks....they ARE NOT connected to the internet.

IF they were, they would NOT be certified.


24 posted on 11/24/2005 1:32:37 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

negative


25 posted on 11/24/2005 1:32:52 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: brivette
This looks like war.

It is... Cyber War!

I vaguely remember an old sci-fi movie where the two countrys at war did so with a computer. Depending on the strategy each side entered into the computer, the computer would determine the battle and notify each side how many casualities had taken place. Each side would then go out and kill that computer determined loss from amongst their own population.

This way there were no innocent's killed or property damage to either sides. Very surgical...

26 posted on 11/24/2005 1:33:30 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: Rebelbase
Why are military computers with Top Secret material even connected to the Internet?

We'll have to check with Algore on this one...

27 posted on 11/24/2005 1:37:15 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: billorites
All governments will pay anything.

Anyone who doesn't think we're doing this is very naive...

28 posted on 11/24/2005 1:38:34 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: SolutionsOnly

heshup... exactly what I was pondering to myself.


29 posted on 11/24/2005 1:40:46 PM PST by steveo (Join today! Fathers Against Rude Television...)
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To: brivette

Sooner or later....inevitable. Now if we can only get the Islamfascists to go to war with the godless Chinese communists we could get rid of two enemies at one time?


30 posted on 11/24/2005 1:41:43 PM PST by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: singfreedom
...while 2 of their emissaries are waiting in the Oval Office anteroom to see President Roosevelt.,,,

Um, actually they were waiting to see the Secretary of State...

32 posted on 11/24/2005 1:51:31 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Jigsaw John
Why hack why in three years President Hillary will just give them the secrets like her husband did? If Bush had taken several hundred thousand from the daughter of a Halliburton executive, do you think we would hear about it? Clinton took several hundred thousand from the daughter of a high ranking Chinese General, yet nary a word in the MSN.
33 posted on 11/24/2005 1:58:57 PM PST by jedgarlives
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

Sorry, I took a bit of literary license with that line. I should have specified that I was doing so. I stand corrected.


34 posted on 11/24/2005 2:01:00 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

And never install the virus called AOL.


this bears repeating.....

And never install the virus called AOL.


35 posted on 11/24/2005 2:04:44 PM PST by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: jedgarlives

How did you hear about it?


36 posted on 11/24/2005 2:07:10 PM PST by Jigsaw John
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To: ExcursionGuy84

Good thing we have not made them mad at us!


37 posted on 11/24/2005 2:07:17 PM PST by standing united (82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!)
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To: singfreedom

I certainly like your thinking!


38 posted on 11/24/2005 2:18:50 PM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: cripplecreek
i think the saying is:

"keep your friends close, and your enemies, closer"

39 posted on 11/24/2005 2:22:08 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Rebelbase

in order to attract Chinese hackers perhaps?


40 posted on 11/24/2005 2:22:40 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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