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To: A. Pole
So the second one is schismatic like the Polish National Catholic Church.

That's the Russian Church propoganda, along with Ukraine (even if there is such a thing) +Russia= ONE "Russian" people. Ukraine used to have its own church- it wasn't subservient to Moscow. But then in 17th cent. as Russians began destroying institutions of ukrainian independence, they done away with our church. In 1991 Ukraine got its political independence from Russia, but the Russian Orthodox Church stayed.

The major step is the getting the Greeks to recognize Ukr. Ortho. Church- continue the talks they had some months ago.

16 posted on 11/25/2005 12:39:07 PM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mazepa
That's the Russian Church propoganda, along with Ukraine (even if there is such a thing) +Russia= ONE "Russian" people. Ukraine used to have its own church- it wasn't subservient to Moscow.

This is very interesting. So you are saying that there were TWO Orthodox Churches among Eastern Slavs, one Russian and one Ukrainian? Were the Novgorod Christians part of the Ukrainian Church or Russian one? When was the baptism of Rusia and when was the baptism of Ukraine? Was the church of Nowgorod the separate third Church, if so, when she came into being?

But then in 17th cent. as Russians began destroying institutions of ukrainian independence, they done away with our church.

How could they do it? Ukraine was under POLISH rule at that time!

In 1991 Ukraine got its political independence from Russia, but the Russian Orthodox Church stayed.

"Russian Orthodox Church stayed"? WHat do you mean?

The major step is the getting the Greeks to recognize Ukr. Ortho. Church- continue the talks they had some months ago.

So the Church of Greece does not recognized "Ukr. Ortho. Church"? Why is that so? I looked at offical web site of the Church of Greece. It looks that Greeks have excellent relationships with the Russian Church, what were "the talks they had some months ago" about? Who were the sides in these talks?

19 posted on 11/25/2005 7:24:28 PM PST by A. Pole (Marcus Lucanus: "Pigmies placed on the shoulders of giants see more than the giants themselves.")
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