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To: lizol

==Must be a genuine Ukrainian patriot (sarcasm)==

You wrongly think that only Ukranian patriots who are anti-russian. Luckily most of Ukrainians think different. Metropolitan Vladimir's patriotism is in consolidation of Russia and Ukraine.


13 posted on 11/24/2005 11:11:45 PM PST by mym (Russia - motherland of elephants)
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To: mym
You wrongly think that only Ukranian patriots who are anti-russian. Luckily most of Ukrainians think different. Metropolitan Vladimir's patriotism is in consolidation of Russia and Ukraine.

Most Ukrainians are indifferent. If there is church nearby, they go to that one (which thanks to the Soviets happen to be Russian Orthodox). In the towns and cities there are more options.

18 posted on 11/25/2005 1:39:04 PM PST by Mazepa
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No I don't think, that Ukranian patriots are those, who are anti-Russian. I think, that Ukranian patriots are those, who are pro-Ukrainian, and want to have normal, free, independent Ukrainian state.

Unfortunately - in those circumstances it means usually being anti-Russian too, as Russia definitely doesn't like such Ukraine.

Metropolitan Vladimir's stance is something, that I'd call pan-Slavism, not Ukrainian patriotism.
40 posted on 11/27/2005 6:10:33 AM PST by lizol
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