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One is affiliated with Moscow Patriarchate and the Russian Orthodox Church - this is this canonical one, as it is recognized by the rest of Orthodoxy.

The second one is independent from Russia.

So the second one is schismatic like the Polish National Catholic Church.

11 posted on 11/24/2005 6:10:06 PM PST by A. Pole (Marcus Lucanus: "Pigmies placed on the shoulders of giants see more than the giants themselves.")

So the second one is schismatic like the Polish National Catholic Church.

That's the Russian Church propoganda, along with Ukraine (even if there is such a thing) +Russia= ONE "Russian" people. Ukraine used to have its own church- it wasn't subservient to Moscow. But then in 17th cent. as Russians began destroying institutions of ukrainian independence, they done away with our church. In 1991 Ukraine got its political independence from Russia, but the Russian Orthodox Church stayed.

The major step is the getting the Greeks to recognize Ukr. Ortho. Church- continue the talks they had some months ago.