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DNA search for 'father' Christmas
BBC ^ | 11/23/05 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 11/23/2005 9:08:42 AM PST by Sax

DNA search for 'father' Christmas By Paul Rincon BBC News science reporter

A team of scientists in Oxford is trying to prove whether families with the rare surname of "Christmas" all descend from a single male ancestor.

They want to study the DNA of men from different Christmas clans to see if they are linked by a common genetic heritage as well as by their surnames.

Bryan Sykes of Oxford Ancestors hopes to do this by studying the male, or Y, chromosomes of volunteers.

The work is part of wider research on the links between surnames and DNA.

DNA analysis company Oxford Ancestors is currently appealing for volunteers for the study and is being assisted in the effort by Henry Christmas, a former telecommunications engineer who has spent 50 years researching the origins and history of his own family name.

Professor Sykes told the BBC News website: "There are several interesting questions such as was there one original 'father' Christmas or were there several different ones?"

A bit of cheek

His team will be taking cheek swabs from those volunteers selected by Mr Christmas in order to extract their DNA.

Every male possesses a Y chromosome which can be inherited only from his father, so this package of genetic material represents a unique record of paternal inheritance.

"If it's a single family with one original founder, then most of them will have the same Y chromosome fingerprint. If there's more than one, we'll identify that," said Bryan Sykes.

"But generally this is the kind of name that, from experience, has one or very few founders."

The work forms a small part of a wider project being conducted by Professor Sykes on the genetic history of Britain.

Surnames can be remarkably informative in reconstructing the genetic family tree of the British Isles, especially those of moderate frequency that can be tied closely to genealogical records.

"Generally speaking, the rarer the name, the more likely it is to have one founder," he explained.

"Most surnames are moderate frequency, like Sykes, like Christmas. Many, even now, are clustered around the historical origin of the name.

"This gives you a way of measuring how much spreading and mixing and movement there has been over the last 800 years - because many English surnames started then."

'Norman origin'

Professor Sykes found about 70% of the men he studied with his own surname had near-identical Y chromosomes. The 70% were all descended from one man who lived in Yorkshire in the 13th Century.

The Christmas family name is established widely through the home counties, but there are two significant geographical clusters; one in Essex and one in Sussex.

"We will select volunteers from those two branches," said Professor Sykes.

"If you didn't have that genealogical information, you wouldn't have the first idea about those two branches or where they come from."

Some genealogy books state that the origin of the surname derives from "one born at Christmas". But Henry Christmas believes this is "too easy".

"The original spelling was 'Chrystmasse', which perhaps indicates Norman origin. There were also Huguenots who came over [from France] with that name," he told the BBC News website.

Professor Sykes said the study should also be able to show how people with the Christmas surname are linked by their genes to other lineages.

And it should link the common male founder - if indeed there was one - to one of the major population groups that have settled in the British Isles over the ages.

But the technique can also reveal signs of female infidelity, turning up errant Y chromosomes that do not fit in the overall genetic tree for a particular lineage.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: christmas; fatherchristmas
Since the author is a BBC Science reporter his professionalism stops him just short of pondering if the 'father' would be jolly 'ole Santa himself. So he just sets it up so the question is so painfully obvious he doesn't actually have to come out and say it. Searching for Santa. You almost wonder if this retired telecom engineer sits near the fire around Christmas time sipping his brandy and wondering if that slight buzzing feeling is the warm embrace of the booze, or if his Kringle sense is tingling. Ho ho ho.
1 posted on 11/23/2005 9:08:42 AM PST by Sax
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To: Sax

Sykes is a pretty credible source. I read his book several years ago and found it very readable and interesting. Since I do genealogy as a hobby, I would love to have my DNA tested. But alas, I am not a Christmas--father or mother.


2 posted on 11/23/2005 9:11:43 AM PST by twigs
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To: Sax
Mommy kissing Santa Claus always creates problems.
3 posted on 11/23/2005 9:11:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Sax

I have a first cousin who is married to a guy with the last name "Christmas".


4 posted on 11/23/2005 9:12:38 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: Sax
"Every male possesses a Y chromosome which can be inherited only from his father, so this package of genetic material represents a unique record of paternal inheritance."

Uh Oh....wait till the feminists hear about THAT!

5 posted on 11/23/2005 9:23:13 AM PST by goodnesswins (We would have WON in Vietnam, without Dim interference.)
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To: goodnesswins
"male...package....genetic material..."

sometimes reading between the lines is a bad thing.

6 posted on 11/23/2005 9:27:58 AM PST by Sax
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To: Sax

Lloyd Christmas

7 posted on 11/23/2005 9:30:22 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Sax

Thus bringing up the possibility that Winston Churchill, British playwright Carol Churchill, and American fraud Ward Churchill all have a common ancestor.

Must have been an interesting guy. Probably a guy who fought to the death to continue writing dirty plays that were based on an ancestry he claimed to have but didn't.


8 posted on 11/23/2005 9:35:05 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Sax

Father Christmas, give us some money
Don't mess around with those silly toys.
We'll beat you up if you don't hand it over
We want your bread so don't make us annoyed
Give all the toys to the little rich boys


9 posted on 11/23/2005 9:36:43 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

that exact song has been stuck in my head since I read this article!


10 posted on 11/23/2005 9:42:33 AM PST by Sax
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To: goodnesswins

"Uh Oh....wait till the feminists hear about THAT!"

They already have. Mitochondrial DNA is ever-so-much more intriguing, to the militant XX set.


11 posted on 11/23/2005 9:54:58 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sax
This looks very much like a dumbed-down pop-science piece. Any two men (living or dead) have a common male-line anscestor if you trace back far enough, so the question is not whether all Christmases are male-related, but whether they're male-related through an unbroken, er, Christmas tree. (One which was visited by the stork but not the cuckoo.)

"A tremendous family to provide for!" muttered Scrooge.
12 posted on 11/23/2005 10:38:53 AM PST by xenophiles
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To: blam

Thought this might interest you, if only to check for later results.


13 posted on 11/23/2005 10:43:38 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Sax
I am offended by your use of the word "Christmas" in the title, in the story, and, most importantly, as someone's surname. Do you not know that "holiday" is supposed to be substituted for Christmas? /extreme sarcasm

Well, I guess this blows my idea of calling dibs on any word, occasion, event, person place or thing with "Christmas" in it! I had thought, thru copyright laws, to protect the name Christmas, but it looks as tho others have beat me to it (dam those Brits anyway!)

14 posted on 11/23/2005 10:46:07 AM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: Sax
"If it's a single family with one original founder, then most of them will have the same Y chromosome fingerprint.

Or the milkman's...

15 posted on 11/23/2005 10:48:47 AM PST by Sloth (Freedom of speech doesn't mean the rest of us have to shut up.)
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To: blu

So once a year the local department store can hire him as temp so they can repeatedly page him over the intercomm.

I wonder if there is a Barry Christmas walking the earth somewhere?


16 posted on 11/23/2005 10:50:58 AM PST by Sax
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To: Sloth

When mentioning the milkman, the only thing I like to think of is milk. Not his DNA transfer medium.


17 posted on 11/23/2005 10:52:43 AM PST by Sax
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To: Sax
I knew of two sisters whose name it was Christmas,
And one was named Dawn of course,
the other one was named Eve.

I wonder if they grew up hating the season,
Of the good will that lasts ‘til the Feast of St. Stephen...

From: "The St. Stephen's Day Murders" by Elvis Costello and Paddy Maloney

18 posted on 11/23/2005 11:01:46 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: ApplegateRanch
"Thought this might interest you, if only to check for later results."

Yup. My kind of 'stuff.' (Thanks)

19 posted on 11/23/2005 11:04:20 AM PST by blam
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