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New questions about who outed Valerie [The Couple Violated The CIA Regulations Concerning Reporters]
WorldNetDaily ^ | Nov. 23, 2005 | Not Cited

Posted on 11/23/2005 7:00:36 AM PST by conservativecorner

In violation of CIA regulations that bar contact with reporters without permission, Joseph Wilson's agency-employed wife Valerie Plame apparently accompanied him to a breakfast meeting with New York Times reporter Nicholas Kristof in which they discussed the ambassador's controversial mission to Niger one month before Plame allegedly was "outed" by Robert Novak.

In a WND column, investigative reporter Jack Cashill points to a "stunning admission" by Wilson in a January 2004 Vanity Fair magazine story that apparently has been overlooked.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beltwaywarzone; cialeak; doublestandard; joewilson; nationalsecurity; pajamapeoplerule; partisanwitchhunt; pl; plame; plamegate; scooterlibby; valerieplame; valorlessphlegm; yellowcake
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To: UCANSEE2
Except for the little details. Like what was Joe going to Niger for anyway?

It was a boondoggle both times. He got the USG to pay his way to Africa twice on alleged USG business. Valerie was able to get Joe the trips so he could conduct his personal business, probably in conjunction with his second wife, Jacqueline. Joe was only paid expenses, which leaves little audit trail and no written reports were required. These trips were contrived to assist Joe in his business and give him some additional cachet beyond being a former ambassador. It would be interesting to learn whether Joe just visited Niger during these trips and whether he conducted personal business while there.

And was he allowed to do so twice?

Joe and Valerie needed the money so they had to come up with a pretext to go to Africa on the USG's dime. Joe retired from the Foreign Service in 1998 after 23 years service, which would entitle him to a pension of about $50K a year. However, his first and second wives would be entitled to a piece of the pension by law. I have no idea what his alimony and child support payments were for his first wife and what his second wife received as part of their divorce settlement in 1998, but you can bet that they got something.

In 1998, Joe divorced his second wife, purchased an expensive home in Georgetown for $730,000, retired from the Foreign Service on probably around $35K (after his two former wives got their piece), which would mean that his USG salary went from around $120K to $35K, and he married Valerie all within six months. Something just doesn't add up.

And why were there fake document produced twice that were discredited? To hide the real documents.

I think all of this conspiracy stuff is nonsense. Follow the money. The two trips in 1999 and 2002 were about personal business. His consulting business was probably floundering. In late 2002 and early 2003, Wilson became a media commodity because of the lead up to the war. Initially, he was providing assessments on Saddam and Iraq due to his previous job as Charge' in Baghdad, the last time we had diplomatic representation in the country. Wilson then saw an opportunity to get a high ranking position in the Kerry administration by dredging up his 2002 trip and putting a political spin on it. I suspect that his personal consulting business and other jobs were not bringing in the kind of money he needed to support his lifestyle.

Using his more than 15 minutes of fame, Wilson has written a book and is cleaning up with speaking fees. It pays to be a political opportunist, just ask Dick Clarke.

121 posted on 11/24/2005 8:09:48 PM PST by kabar
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To: Alamo-Girl; Boazo; devolve

good thing devolve pinged me or I woulda missed it - that tape is just amazing! the gall!


122 posted on 11/24/2005 9:09:58 PM PST by bitt ( Dems: summer soldiers, sunshine patriots, and armchair Napoleons.)
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To: devolve; bitt; Jim Robinson; Howlin; nutmeg; mhking; wagglebee; weegee; onyx; doug from upland; ...

PLEASE forward #95 to ALL TALK SHOW HOSTS, other MEDIA CONTACTS!

Listen to recorded phone call...

CNN spokesman calls Bush and Cheney liars repeatedly and hangs up on female caller.




GREAT catch, Devolve!
Thanks for the ping, Bitt!


123 posted on 11/24/2005 9:12:08 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger; All

http://www.dailypundit.com/newarchives/006044.php#023794

where it all began...


124 posted on 11/24/2005 10:06:06 PM PST by bitt ( Dems: summer soldiers, sunshine patriots, and armchair Napoleons.)
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To: johnny7

Does anyone remember when the stock market was almost to 11,00 and all of the media were on a minute by minute watch for at least a week. Ask almost anybody if they even know that the market is either at a 4 1/2 high or over ten thousand. Pretty soon when all of the good neews breaks in our direction...oh my...the libs will be out there yelling about God only knows what!


125 posted on 11/24/2005 10:09:58 PM PST by TatieBug
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To: bitt

bump for later


126 posted on 11/24/2005 10:22:09 PM PST by Ditter
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Click on the link in #95 to hear a recorded phone call to CNN Headline News (.wav file about 3:16 minutes).

CNN spokesman calls Bush and Cheney liars repeatedly and hangs up on female caller.

Feel free to forward it to ALL TALK SHOW HOSTS, other MEDIA CONTACTS!

Latest update by FReeper devolve:

CNN has admitted that tape is authentic - and fired the CNN Headline News jerk who answered the phone and made all of those comments

I dug around and found that before thr FR threads about the tape were posted and sent it out in my emails and posted it here on a FR thread about CNN

Lots of people were attempting to say this is a faked audio and discredit it as made up by conservatives

This radical leftist activist mentality is all thru CNN and the MSM

Matt Drudge has not yet posted that CNN adits thhe tape is genuine -

Developing.......

117 posted on 11/24/2005 5:42:42 PM EST by devolve

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

127 posted on 11/24/2005 10:34:15 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: NautiNurse; doug from upland; Mia T; ALOHA RONNIE; jwalsh07; Born Conservative; mhking; ...
Click on the link in #95 to hear a recorded phone call to CNN Headline News (.wav file about 3:16 minutes).

CNN spokesman calls Bush and Cheney liars repeatedly and hangs up on female caller.

Feel free to forward it to ALL TALK SHOW HOSTS, other MEDIA CONTACTS!

Latest update by FReeper devolve:

CNN has admitted that tape is authentic - and fired the CNN Headline News jerk who answered the phone and made all of those comments

I dug around and found that before thr FR threads about the tape were posted and sent it out in my emails and posted it here on a FR thread about CNN

Lots of people were attempting to say this is a faked audio and discredit it as made up by conservatives

This radical leftist activist mentality is all thru CNN and the MSM

Matt Drudge has not yet posted that CNN adits thhe tape is genuine -

Developing.......

117 posted on 11/24/2005 5:42:42 PM EST by devolve

128 posted on 11/24/2005 10:34:58 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: devolve; Blurblogger
Great catch with that recorded call in #95, devolve!

Thanks for the ping, Blurblogger... I've pinged my lists to #95 as you requested.

129 posted on 11/24/2005 10:38:00 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: devolve

BTTT


130 posted on 11/24/2005 10:40:44 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: nutmeg; bitt; devolve; Doctor Raoul; bert; Howlin; mhking; Buckhead; Southack; Cobra64

heads up, I got another ping, surfed more, possible hoax suggests Doctor Raoul. MAYBE...

It's sure sad--or worse--when an organization like CNN is so disreputable that something like this is reasonably considered to have PROBABLY HAPPENED.

Since they **did** put the X on Cheney, why wouldn't they try to do plausible denial etc. at CYA time, when a major backlash is occurring?

Like Rush says about Libs, CNN is guilty until proven innocent....


131 posted on 11/24/2005 11:07:18 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: nutmeg; bitt; Blurblogger; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; ...

Sorryfor my dumb typos FReepers!

I must have been typing with only my left hand while taking notes and grabbing a snack or coffee.

I have done a little legal recording of phone conversations using voice-actuated or manually switched mini-cassette recorders and using a simply cable and adapter transferred them onto VCR tapes (add more volume and sounds nearly perfect on most any VCR/TV playback) for attorneys to use in a handy format with video on screen - the pauses I heard did not sound much different then may tapes I have heard - but I myself use simple Radio Shack suction cup mikes right on any standard phone handset and have always gotten perfect crystal clear results.

Before attempting this - check any and all state statutes in the states at both ends of your phone calls - a "one-party" state like Connecticut is OK - but recall what one state AG did to Linda Tripp for recording calls from one state to Monica Lewinski in Washington DC.



An activist democrat Florida couple, Congressman Saddam McDermott, and the New York Times may get away with illegally intercepting, monitoring, recording, transferring, and then publishing private cellphone conversations between Newt Gingrich and several other Republicans in Congress without prosecutor "Patsy" Fitzgerald blinking an eye - but you won't!

Also never attempt to record an practicing attorney, physican, or clergyman by phone or at their office or home - More than one attorney is now doing time for using a hidden recorder left under his bed in his own home to catch a cheating wife. (One in CT is for sure!)




MP3  THE SPY WHO LOVED ME  MID


132 posted on 11/25/2005 4:54:29 AM PST by devolve (<--- (--------(--do not check out my lame FR home page--)--------)
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To: conservativecorner

I don't think the language of the sentence supports WND's contention.


133 posted on 11/25/2005 5:20:54 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: Blurblogger

'possible hoax suggests Doctor Raoul'

HAHA! I first read that to be that Doctor Raoul 'did' the hoax...!!

BB meant that Doctor R 'suggests' it could be a hoax....


134 posted on 11/25/2005 7:22:40 AM PST by bitt ( Dems: summer soldiers, sunshine patriots, and armchair Napoleons.)
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To: bitt; Doctor Raoul

Just wanted all of us to proceed with caution, not get stung like the MSM did with the GI Joe doll 'hostage' etc.


Doctor Raoul ROCKS! Probably can waltz and line-dance too...


;^)


135 posted on 11/25/2005 7:59:23 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: devolve

Excellent.


136 posted on 11/25/2005 8:14:26 AM PST by tioga
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To: Velveeta

Thanks,....explains why it loaded quickly, today, for me.


137 posted on 11/25/2005 11:02:05 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: tioga; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Alamo-Girl; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; bitt; ...




The font colors have no subliminal message.....

Neither does the Times New Roman font.....



138 posted on 11/25/2005 11:05:46 AM PST by devolve (<--- (--------(--do not check out my lame FR home page--)--------)
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To: devolve

Good catch!


139 posted on 11/25/2005 11:08:16 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: UCANSEE2
"Like what was Joe going to Niger for anyway?"

Joe wrote that in Niger "I spent the next eight days drinking sweet mint tea". But I think this was edited by the Times. I'm sure Joe meant to write "I made a mint drinking and smoking a little tea. Sweet!"

140 posted on 11/25/2005 11:19:49 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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