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Key Bush Intelligence Briefing Kept From Hill Panel
National Journal Group ^ | 11/22.2005 | Murray Waas

Posted on 11/23/2005 5:34:50 AM PST by Homer1

Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.

The administration has refused to provide the Sept. 21 President's Daily Brief, even on a classified basis, and won't say anything more about it other than to acknowledge that it exists.

The information was provided to Bush on September 21, 2001 during the "President's Daily Brief," a 30- to 45-minute early-morning national security briefing. Information for PDBs has routinely been derived from electronic intercepts, human agents, and reports from foreign intelligence services, as well as more mundane sources such as news reports and public statements by foreign leaders.

One of the more intriguing things that Bush was told during the briefing was that the few credible reports of contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda involved attempts by Saddam Hussein to monitor the terrorist group. Saddam viewed Al Qaeda as well as other theocratic radical Islamist organizations as a potential threat to his secular regime. At one point, analysts believed, Saddam considered infiltrating the ranks of Al Qaeda with Iraqi nationals or even Iraqi intelligence operatives to learn more about its inner workings, according to records and sources.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; hussein; intelligence; iraq; osama; pdb; september12era; wot
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To: Chgogal

The CIA had no 'feet on the ground' thanks to Clinton and Her Heinous who thought spies weren't 'nice'. Another gift from Bill and Hill.


21 posted on 11/23/2005 5:43:06 AM PST by hershey
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To: mewzilla

Exactly.


22 posted on 11/23/2005 5:43:39 AM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: pageonetoo; Homer1; Nita Nupress

Thanks. LOL. Nita's title made a great mnemonic :)


23 posted on 11/23/2005 5:43:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Homer1

It's irrelevant. Bush never claimed there was an Al Qeada/Iraqi connection. This is just the MSM continuing to repeat a non story in the hopes anyone reading it hasn't been paying attention for the last 3 years.


24 posted on 11/23/2005 5:45:40 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Homer1
scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.

Since this is patently untrue, I did not bother with the rest.

25 posted on 11/23/2005 5:46:13 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Homer1

Those $25,000 checks to families of Palestinian suicide bombers weren't proof enough he was involved in terrorism?


27 posted on 11/23/2005 5:47:27 AM PST by ikka
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To: Homer1
Waas is less than a credible source for anything except filler for indymedia. His stuff on a good day is bent.
28 posted on 11/23/2005 5:47:32 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: Homer1

1) Clinton's Justice Department prepared an indictment of al-Qaeda's leader, Osama bin Laden, in which a prominent passage located in the fourth paragraph reads:

Al-Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985906/posts?page=30#30

2) The CIA said there were no connections between Iraq and AQ? Really? That's not what they said some time ago:

3) List of CIA and various Reports regarding Iraq's support for terrorists, terrorism and AQ.
September 16, 2004. The Weekly Standard.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/631slkle.asp

4) Osama bin Laden was considered an Iraqi Intelligence asset.
October 14, 2004. National Review.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1246505/posts

5) Even the MSM wrote about Saddam and OBL reaching out to each other - before 9/11!

Saddam reaching out to OBL
January 1, 1999. Newsweek
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1158277/posts

ABC news reports on the Osama/Saddam connections
January 14, 1999. ABC News
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1229608/posts?page=1

List of newspaper articles written in the 90's which mention the world's concern regarding the growing relationship between OBL and Saddam.
July 14, 2003. FrontPage Magazine.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/946809/posts?page=1

6) that and more, here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1327993/posts


29 posted on 11/23/2005 5:48:19 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Homer1
Murray Waas
30 posted on 11/23/2005 5:48:33 AM PST by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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To: Brilliant

oops...my bad


31 posted on 11/23/2005 5:50:12 AM PST by Homer1
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To: Homer1

Doesn't matter, there were ties even if not operational at the time. He provided terrorists of many stripes sanctuary and funding and he is prominent in conversations as well as documents contacting Al Qaeda before 9-11.

BTW, the 14 resolutions, gassing of the Kurds and numerous attacks on our interests for years that also had contact with him are reason enough for me. I can't even mention the number of murals of Father Saddam with the attack of 9-11 all around Iraq. Why would those be there? Or the planes unburied that Al Qaeda trained on before 9-11 as well as other camps in Iraq.


32 posted on 11/23/2005 5:51:01 AM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: Homer1

I would imagine that the president receives all information from all perspectives.

"Mr. President, we have seen nothing linking AQ with Iraq."

"Mr. President, there are reports that Iraq was funding AQ terrorists and harboring wanted fugitives thought to be part of bin Laden's group."

"Mr. President, there is a report that shows Iraq has been trying to buy material to build a nuclear bomb."

"Mr. President, there is a report that says the first report is false."


33 posted on 11/23/2005 5:52:20 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: zarqawi_will_die

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

Member since 11/18/05.


34 posted on 11/23/2005 5:52:52 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Homer1

I’m almost done with General Tommy Franks’ autobiography “American Soldier” but I’d thought I’d share this passage from page 418:


I met with King Abdullah II of Jordan in his home in Amman on the afternoon of Thursday, January 23, 2003. “General,” he said, “from reliable intelligence sources, I believe the Iraqis are hiding chemical and biological weapons.”

The Jordanians did have reliable intelligence sources in Iraq. I trusted them, and I trusted the king’s judgment. And I wasn’t surprised at what his sources had reported. I’d spent days and nights over the previous twelve years worrying about Saddam’s WMD program, and the effect that such weapons could have on our troops – or on my country. I thanked the king, left his home, drove to the hotel, and straight to the Comm room to pass the information I’d been given to Secretary Rumsfeld.

[snip section about how General Franks’ plane was diverted to Cairo, Egypt]

Hosni Mubarak was friendly as always. But he was clearly concerned with our military buildup and the tension in Iraq.

He leaned close and spoke to me in accented but readily comprehensible English. “General Franks,” he said, choosing his words carefully, as Abdullah had done. “You must be very, very careful. We have spoken with Saddam Hussein. He is a madman. He has WMD – biologicals, actually – and he will use them on your troops.”
The maddening fact is that Hussein, indisputably, had weapons of mass destruction; and almost nobody believed he willingly destroyed his arsenal.


35 posted on 11/23/2005 5:55:38 AM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: Peach

Nice work, Peach!

The MSM can't rewrite history anymore.

The New Media will see to that!


36 posted on 11/23/2005 5:56:33 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Homer1

Funny, a new article says they STILL cannot disprove that it was Mohammad Atta that visited Al-Ani in Czechoslovakia in April 2001, or account for where MA got $8,000 suddenly in a bank account after that meeting.


37 posted on 11/23/2005 5:57:00 AM PST by LS
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To: VRWCmember
LOL
Friendly fire incident.
38 posted on 11/23/2005 6:01:09 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Homer1
It probably is true that the President's daily intel briefing contained the described information. Ronald Reagan described his daily national intel brief as pap and 'like reading the headlines in day before yesterday's New York Times'.

These briefings represent the bureaucratic political face that the career insiders wish presented. It was the agreed on position by these people that Saddam had no connections with the AQ and that Iraq had no WMD (maybe in a narrow technically defined way correct, but deliberately ignoring everything known about the regimes intentions.)

Now some of those same people are pushing this stale and inaccurate analysis as the smoking gun that 'Bush lied'. The sacred nature of classified data which everyone bows down to in DC (until it becomes in the interest of someone to leak it)helps keep the administration from showing how banal this stuff is. This is a classic inside the beltway sandbag ploy.
39 posted on 11/23/2005 6:02:54 AM PST by robowombat
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To: Chgogal; Homer1
Considering that the CIA had no "feet on the ground" they were in no position to verify or protect this country from anything.

The CIA is like the Clintons - their statements must be carefully "parsed" to get to the true meaning. They are masters at making factual statements in a manner which conveys a lie.

In this case, their statement that they "had no evidence" is clearly intended to give the impression that they had all the facts and the reason is because it was untrue. Their statement, however, is also fully congruent with the reality that their sources who would be in a position to know are almost non-existent and their incompetence so pervasive that they just flat-out missed it.

This is the same sort of parsing they have used to try to discredit the Czech intelligence service's adamant confirmation of the meeting in Prague between Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi intelligence official.

They say that "we cannot confirm it" means it never happened, when what it really means is that they're incompetent hacks who couldn't get the job done and missed it and are determined to cover their asses.

40 posted on 11/23/2005 6:03:20 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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