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To: djrakowski
What divinely-inspired table of contents guided you in recognizing which books should be included in the canon

Are you suggesting the Catholic Bible was divinely inspired???

If you make it to heaven, I can't wait to see the look on your face when you realize there are millions of non-Catholics already there...

71 posted on 11/23/2005 6:49:11 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: Iscool

"Are you suggesting the Catholic Bible was divinely inspired?"

Yes, I am insisting that Sacred Scripture is divinely inspired. But, I'm sure you know, the table of contents didn't drop from the sky. It was compiled by Church councils - Catholic Church councils, that is.

"If you make it to heaven, I can't wait to see the look on your face when you realize there are millions of non-Catholics already there..."

Won't be surprising at all.


105 posted on 11/23/2005 8:49:11 AM PST by djrakowski
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To: Iscool; djrakowski
Heaven is filled with Catholics and non-Catholics alike. There were several sects of Judaism during the time of Jesus and the divisions didn't seem to bother him a bit. He dealt with the Pharisees, the Sadducees, the Herodians, the Zealots, and the Essenes.

Jesus criticized wrong beliefs regardless of which group held them and he praised faith wherever he found it. He even spread the gospel to Samaritans and Gentiles, for goodness' sake!

Catholics and Protestants are both guilty of Churchianity -- that is, placing religious man-made duty religious duties above a relationship with Jesus Christ. Being born into a Baptist church or a Catholic church doesn't make anyone a Christian. None of us can afford to make the mistake of thinking that attending Mass every week or being a deacon at First Baptist Church or speaking in tongues at Grace Pentecostal church is going to save us. Many Jews in the time of Jesus believed that the mere fact of being descendants of Abraham made them holy:

"Don't just say, `We're safe--we're the descendants of Abraham.' That proves nothing. God can change these stones here into children of Abraham." (Matthew 3:9).

"There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Messiah Yeshua... Where, then is boasting? It is excluded" (Rom. 3:23; 27a).

Thus Abraham "believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness." So you see that it is men of faith who are the sons of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." So then, those who are men of faith are blessed with Abraham who had faith. (Galatians 3:6-9)

Works alone can't help us:

"We are all infected and impure with sin. When we proudly display our righteous deeds, we find they are but filthy rags. Like autumn leaves, we wither and fall. And our sins, like the wind, sweep us away." (Isa. 64:6).

Works don't save us but our faith is demonstrated by our works:

"Faith without works is dead," and "Do not merely listen to the Word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says!" (Jas. 2:17; 1:22).

"But the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Messiah Yeshua have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit" (Gal. 5:22-25).


150 posted on 11/23/2005 2:20:44 PM PST by DallasMike (Call me Dallasaurus)
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