East Asia allies doubt U.S. could win war with China

News World Communications ^ | 11/22/2005

[defenderSD]

I wonder if this guy is a Japanese version of Dennis Kucinich?

[Hoosier-Daddy]

We may get Sunburn-ed before they get sunburned. It's true.

[strategofr]

"2) The US would not likely fight China in large scale land battles. The likeliest possibility would be a battle for Taiwan. Crossing a body of water is a very difficult thing to do (stopping power of water) and when you are facing a modern military (Taiwain) backed by the only superpower in the world's naval and air forces it becomes even more difficult."

Agreed. The Chinese themselves (with agreement by many US analysts) assume that to successfully conquer Tawain they would have to succeed in 10-12 days. During that window, they would have a chance due to the time it takes to move in US assets. After that, the Chinese would have no chance.

[strategofr]

"Insight Mag has always struck me as a rather kooky and crappy source. I actually wouldn't trust that anything they claim to be quoting is correct."

Appreciate that info. I am not familiar with them, but this first impression is a bad one.

[Hoosier-Daddy]

Hopefully, there would be enough of a buildup so that we can move our battle groups towards the area. What do we have to counter the supersonic cruise missiles?

[aShepard]

Of course, the ChiComs would immediately bomb Jimmuh's canal, making our supply route that much more difficult!

[fallujah-nuker]

He must be the Japanese version of a Dem. I think that his full name is Mr. Murtha Ishihara.


Shintaro Ishihara.

Remember his book?

[DAC22]

I think even the Dummies will be surprised how many NEW friends we have if the Commies attack. If we go down there is nothing in the way to keep the commies from moving in on Japan, Asia, Eastern Europe.........

[servantboy777]

I hate to be the ol downer here, but I think a bunch of y'all are underestimating China.

China has spent the last decade upgrading their whole conventional military. Advanced missiles from s/s to anti ship. Latest subs and surface ships to ensure stiff resistance during a conflict in the South China sea.

I've kept up with the ol chicoms, they have had their economy grow at a blistering pace compared to the US economy. Larger and larger percentages of their GDP are being diverted for military purposes.

I'm not saying that China would defeat the U.S., I am cautioning those not to take a Chinese threat too lightly. A conflict with China could result in major loss.

[fallujah-nuker]

May be of interest:

http://home.earthlink.net/~rufusis/japanno/part01.html

[defenderSD]

I believe we have five aircraft carriers and supporting ships stationed on the west coast and in Hawaii. The Panama canal is not a factor any more and our carriers are too big to fit through the canal anyway. I don't know for sure, but I'll bet we have two carrier battle groups within seven days of Taiwain at all times.

[Strategerist]

Actually the closest parallel to the Chinese military at the moment is the perception of the Iraqi military (the million man, battle, hardened, blah blah blah) in the Fall of 1990.

A great many people with a great many axes to grind and precious little understanding of military matters have frantically overhyped it.

[Strategerist]

Of course, the ChiComs would immediately bomb Jimmuh's canal, making our supply route that much more difficult!

The Panama Canal is largely irrelevant to the US military at the moment, and not particularly relevant to the US economy, and it being inoperable wouldn't matter much to the US in a war at all.

[defenderSD]

"What do we have to counter the supersonic cruise missiles?"

Aegis system can be used to defend against missiles as well as aircraft. Best defense against supersonic cruise missiles is to bomb their launch sites before our ships get within range.

[jess35]

What makes them think we'd ever have to put boots on the ground? If we ever go to war with China, it'll be a nuclear war.

[KarinG1]

Although I really don't want to find out if I'm right, I disagree. America is the only country, in my opinion, that could actually win a war against the Chinese. I kind of doubt they want to test my theory.

[Enterprise]

In the last couple of hundred years, and other than Tibet, China has engaged and defeated whom?

[Strategerist]

America is the only country, in my opinion, that could actually win a war against the Chinese.

The Chinese have managed to lose an immense number of wars against a large number of countries in the last 3,000 years.

[servantboy777]

Your not even comparing apples to apples when you speak of Iraq and China in the same conversation.

There is ample research from various media sources that could throw cold water on any notion that China is just blowing hot air.

China is indeed a formidable enemy, to discount their capabilities is nothing short of ignorance.

Logistically speaking, do you really feel we could sustain a protracted war on or near the mainland of China? They have the largest standing army in the world. They may still be behind in some technologies (what they haven't bought, stolen, or had handed to them), but shear numbers and familiar territory is certainly on their side.

China is NOT the poor lil nation it once was. Think also, we have so much manufacturing capital in China, an all out war would not only hurt their economy, it would devastate ours.