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Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas?
ktsm ^ | Nov. 22 05 | ktsm

Posted on 11/22/2005 3:18:10 PM PST by churchillbuff

If you're expecting a hearty "Merry Christmas" as you're doing your shopping; you might be disappointed.

Usual holiday ads say things like Christmas, but you might want get used to hearing and seeing the term holiday. Because some stores are cutting Christmas out and putting a generic phrase in.

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, but don't expect to hear someone say it.

"I love Christmas, so I don't mind," says Rebecca Reyes.

Wal-mart is one of many stores asking its employees to replace Christmas with "Happy Holidays". The company says its trying not to offend anyone, by catering to one kind of celebration. However, some say it makes the season generic.

"I really don't care what people say to me. Merry Christmas, Merry Xmas, it's all the same," says Lorenzo Maxwell.

Other people want to boycott stores like Macy's and Bloomingdales where they also say the same, cutting out Christmas and Hanukkah from sayings and banners.

"I think Happy Hanukkah is appropriate, if your gonna say Merry Christmas say Happy Hanukkah as well," says Diane Sandy.

"That its so generic, not gonna offend anyone by saying Happy Holidays," says El Pasoan Eric Morales.

Rabbi Stephen Leon says he personally isn't offended by Merry Christmas, but believes corporations are just trying to please everyone, "one thing I've learned in life is you can't please everyone."

Some think the generic phrase is taking it too far and want to keep the season traditional and simple.

"I'm still gonna say it, that's my basis, don't think we should sweep it under the rug," Sandy says.

"Trying to ban everything, so I think they just leave as is," says Reyes.

The Catholic League for Religous and Civil rights had wanted a boycott against Wal-mart saying the store discriminated against Christmas. But called it off after the store apologized.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: antichrist; antichristian; antichristmas; bigotry; christ; christmas; culturewars; humbug; jesus; merrychristmas; pc; retail; scrooge; xmas
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To: Blue Jays

But have you ever got "happy long weekend!" greeting?


163 posted on 11/22/2005 11:52:12 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Mr. Rational
There's no problem when you know people, and their beliefs. Before urban sprawl, we'd know exactly what to say to one another. We knew when someone was Methodist, or Orthodox, or Jewish. We would be able to great people on their own sacred days accordingly.

Generic greetings are OK when you have no way of knowing to whom you are speaking. I just wish retailers would allow their clerks to use common sense. When I go through the line to buy Christmas ornaments and Christmas cards, the clerk should feel free to say, "Merry Christmas." Likewise when I meet a clerk who attends my church. When people actually know you and your beliefs, it seems a step in the wrong direction to suddenly get generic.
164 posted on 11/23/2005 4:32:34 AM PST by keats5
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To: derllak

One way to make a statement is to do just that...Christians should put up Nativity scenes outdoors where they can witness to the celebration of our Savior's birth. Does your Christian church put up a Nativity scene? Why should Walmart recognize Christmas when our churches are having "holiday" programs now?


165 posted on 11/23/2005 4:37:14 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: churchillbuff

>>>When the 25th is over, the music stops, and "Happy Holidays" is no longer said

And neither is Merry Christmas. All these Christians offended by not hearing Merry Christmas during Advent that don't even acknowledge that Christmas extends into Epiphany.


166 posted on 11/23/2005 5:54:55 AM PST by NC28203
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To: churchillbuff
If we're not allowed to wish people "Merry Christmas" out loud - - and if the stores that cater to a population that is 80 percent Christian make money off Christmas giving, but refuse to utter the real name of the holiday -- then we might as well live in an Islamic Country.

You ARE kidding, right? I mean, I think it's awful that store staff aren't allowed to say Merry Christmas, but really, is it as bad as women being throw into rape rooms and woman having lipstick scraped off with razor blades?

167 posted on 11/23/2005 6:01:41 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Skooz
Anyone who wants me to shop at their store for Christmas presents will acknowledge the name of the holiday

Bingo

A clerk saying 'Happy Holiday' is one thing. I don't find that too offensive.

But the store better have the 'Merry Christmas' banners flying.

One of our malls had the lighting of the 'Tree of Lights' last weekend. Now that pi$$ed me off.

168 posted on 11/23/2005 6:07:37 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: churchillbuff

Tell them "Happy Winter Solstice"


169 posted on 11/23/2005 6:44:52 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: churchillbuff

odd.. whenever someone wished me happy holidays, i've always thought it meant Christmas eve/ day, new years eve/ day. that four holidays, four days off work, etc.


170 posted on 11/23/2005 6:48:46 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: churchillbuff

Why can't we do it this way?

I say "Merry Christmas" and you can say, "Happy Holidays" or "Happy Hannukah" or even "Merry Christmas" or nothing and neither of us takes offense.

That's the trouble with these atheists - they want it their way or nothing even though they are in the quite distinct MINORITY. Not long ago I heard some atheist babe on the radio after - this part is hard to believe - a judicial ruling hadn't gone their way. "Where is an atheist supposed to go for justice?!" she demanded.

You know what, beeyatch, the rest of us don't care if you ever get "justice". Because your "justice" is at the expense of the MAJORITY.

You see the difference is we don't force you to go to church, pray etc. but you want to force us to stop doing those things.

Atheists are consumed by guilt/rage that they don't have faith and so are determined that no one who does have should draw strength, comfort from their faith.

It's typical lib reaction - spiritual class envy if you will. If I don't have it, you're not going to either. Instead of aspiring to more, they want everyone to be equally miserable.


171 posted on 11/23/2005 7:11:26 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: huckfillary
When someone wishes me Happy Holidays, I tell them, wish me Merry Christmas or nothing at all, thank you.

I just say "Merry Christmas" to the store clerks, to the Human Resources people who greet us at our company's "winter holiday season" party and wherever else I can. I won't let ANYONE wreck my Christmas spirit.

172 posted on 11/23/2005 8:00:19 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: Palladin

Can't stand Starbucks Coffee or Old Navy clothing anyway, so they'll never see my dollars. There's better coffee for less money out there, and I personally don't wear jeans for anything except doing dirty jobs around home.


173 posted on 11/23/2005 8:04:09 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: NRA1995

I'm proud to say I have never been in a Starbucks.

Dunkin' Donuts has the best coffee in my neighborhood, and for 1/5 the price.


174 posted on 11/23/2005 2:13:37 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: knowledgeforfreedom

"Why do so some Christians find it offensive to welcome other groups as well"


It has nothing to do with "welcoming other groups". It is the cleansing of Christianity completely from our society. They are kowtowing to litigious athiests. No religious group that I've ever heard of had any problem with Christmas, it's the Newdows of this country bitching and filing lawsuits. Atheism is a religion, and is fast becoming our state religion


175 posted on 11/23/2005 2:30:34 PM PST by Figment
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To: Figment

I was raised in a very conservative Church of Christ, and they did not observe Christmas. We had a Christmas tree at home and gave presents, but I was always taught that the celebration of Christmas was one instituted by man, not God, and there was no observance at church. I know there are other churches that don't observe Christmas either. So, yes there are religous groups that have a problem with Christmas, they just don't make a lot of noise about it.


176 posted on 11/23/2005 7:19:12 PM PST by gingerky
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To: gingerky

"So, yes there are religous groups that have a problem with Christmas, they just don't make a lot of noise about it"

Precisely what I'm talking about. You didn't try to force your beliefs on others. No doubt Christmas has been commercialized beyond belief, but to completely take Christ out of it is ridiculous. What is it coming to? Worshipping the tree?


177 posted on 11/24/2005 9:29:21 AM PST by Figment
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To: churchillbuff

178 posted on 11/25/2005 7:06:22 PM PST by StACase
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To: gingerky

Why is it such a big deal? Because for many years the ACLU and other organizations have been attacking our traditions. The happy holiday is Christmas. I want to hear people say it to me or they are not getting my money.


179 posted on 11/26/2005 5:05:07 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: churchillbuff

For the life of me, I cannot understand why this bothers anyone. This time of year is not strictly for Christians so unless you walk around with a crucifix stapled to your forehead or a yarmulke on your head, how is anyone supposed to know what is the right thing to say? Happy Holidays says both. Get the hell over it already.


180 posted on 11/26/2005 5:09:05 PM PST by ShadowDancer (I think I may have the Asian Bird Fru. I mean Flu. (Damn, it's starting already))
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