Those Defensive Darwinists

The Seattle Times ^ | 11/21/05 | Jonathon Witt

[Cicero]

Thomas Kuhn pointed out as much in "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions." Scientific knowledge can only advance so far by increments, and then there is a "paradigm shift," and everything that science thought it knew is turned upside down.

"Orthodox" scientists are unable to grant the possibility of such paradigm shifts, so they dig in and resist until finally the weight of evidence sweeps them into the dustbin of history, along with the Ptolemaic theory, phlogiston, and aether.

Kuhn's book was so badly misrepresented and misused by the postmodernists, he almost repented writing it. But in point of fact he had it exactly right.

[doc30]

A lot of what you ask can never be answered by science. Why we are here is a subject outside science and more suited to theology or philosophy. Doesn't mean they aren't important questions, just that science can't answer them.

[Conservativehomeschoolmama]

okay...lets see if this might help...

"On the Origins of Species by means of natural selection or the PRESERVATION OF THE FAVOURED RACES IN THE STRUGGLE FOR LIFE. By Charles Darwin, M.A. 1859"

Hitler worshiped Darwin....

[Coyoteman]

Hitler worshiped Darwin....

We had Nazis by the third post; I am surprised it took until post #64 to get to Hitler.

Is that what passes on your side for a reasoned argument?

[Elsie]

You leave my wife outta this!

[Elsie]

Liquor's quicker

[The Old Hoosier]

The government tells us not to smoke or get fat, doesn't it? Officials give speeches, the Ad Council advertises, the schools propagandize.

Moreover, scientists can stop minimizing the threat of sodomy and jabbering about a "heterosexual AIDS crisis" that doesn't exist.

[Coyoteman]

Liquor's quicker

I know that! I went to college!

[Elsie]

Then what do you remember about it??

;^)

[2nsdammit]

I'm sorry, you lost me.....

Are you suggesting that the government teach us about what causes HIV and AIDS?

[GLDNGUN]

We had Nazis by the third post; I am surprised it took until post #64 to get to Hitler.

Is that what passes on your side for a reasoned argument?

Well, since Hitler simply beieved what Darwin wrote about the races and put his belief into action it's an important historical lesson. One you'd like to forget, no doubt. If Hitler was on my side, I'd throw a fit every time somebody brought it up, too.

[aft_lizard]

Good I am not trying to win converts. Just pointing out the obvious tactics and argument style that has pervaded the uber defensive evo-elite. If you take offense to that, well sadly then its your own shark you keep jumping.

[aft_lizard]

LOL if only thats what I meant, then your exaggerations would hold water. But since it is not, and you know it, what my comparison is about you are simply bloviating.

[aft_lizard]

Did ya happen to read the article? Heres one from it: University of Minnesota biologist P.Z. Myers argues that Darwinists should take an even harder line against their opponents: "Our only problem is that we aren't martial enough, or vigorous enough, or loud enough, or angry enough," he wrote. "The only appropriate responses should involve some form of righteous fury, much butt-kicking, and the public firing and humiliation of some teachers, many school board members, and vast numbers of sleazy far-right politicians." Sounds a little Eichman to me.

[2nsdammit]

I'm sorry, you lost me.....

Are you suggesting that the government teach us about what causes HIV and AIDS?

You mean like this?

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm#exposure

[PatrickHenry]

... camouflaging the TRUE source of the posted article, by way of omission.

Hee hee.

[aft_lizard]

I dont care about the stupid argument. Geez, I care about the mischarectirization(sp?), lies, and bullying.Little girl.

LOL I always love an internet toughie.

[The Old Hoosier]

I mean like something equivalent to what they do with smoking, not a little chart buried on a government web site.

[Coyoteman]

Well, since Hitler simply beieved what Darwin wrote about the races and put his belief into action it's an important historical lesson. One you'd like to forget, no doubt. If Hitler was on my side, I'd throw a fit every time somebody brought it up, too.

Creationists, Hitler and Evolution. Hitler was most likely a creationist.

See also: PatrickHenry's List-O-Links.