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How many guns is too many?
Sentinel & Enterprise (Massachussetts) ^ | 11/22/05 | Caitlyn Kelleher

Posted on 11/22/2005 9:19:56 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: rarestia

r,
Long story short, I had to go to an all-night pharmacy in Springfield, MA for antibiotic for Mrs. Gefreiter the other night. Couldn't wait for daylight. Doesn't help that it's next to the big liquor store.

Springfield, fyi, is a small city but scores quite highly on the violence/murder lists that Morgan Quitno puts out every year. The city celebrates diversity by coddling violent dirtbags of every stripe. Oh, and with virtually 100% denial of carry permits for residents.

Anyway, *believe* that I left with my P220 on my hip and Golden Sabres in the mag.

G


81 posted on 11/22/2005 10:27:59 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: El Gato
Second Amendment, Constitution for the United States.

Forget the Second. It was nullified by the USSC.
There is no right to keep and bear arms. Firearms are a privilege, not a right.
.
82 posted on 11/22/2005 10:31:24 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I ordered my first gun yesterday and after reading this, I'm glad I did. Don't get me wrong, I have a safe nearly full of guns. But I had never picked up a phone and ordered a gun, sight unseen before.

Previously, I just picked one out off of the shelf, or traded, or tracked down a dealer who had what I wanted.

This time I ordered my first gun, my first 1911, my first Government Model, my first .45 pistol.

Mmmmmm, a Smith and Wesson 1911 Doug Koenig Pistol. (Hopefully some DU troll reading this has just wet himself.)

83 posted on 11/22/2005 10:31:41 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TC Rider

..and, nope, still not enough.


84 posted on 11/22/2005 10:32:27 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Abathar
I think she might be catching on

ROFL!
I got a gun for my wife, best trade I ever made!
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85 posted on 11/22/2005 10:35:34 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: saveliberty

Same thing happened in Austrailia when the government banned auto and pump shotguns. Home invasion-type robberies started going up. Watch the crime rate in S.F. spike upward also, as a result of the "feel-good" ban on handguns there. Criminals are always drawn to places where they know they can "get away with murder."


86 posted on 11/22/2005 10:35:58 AM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: Gefreiter

sounds like something some beaurocrat came up with to kill some time (an FID)


87 posted on 11/22/2005 10:38:21 AM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"We just want to hold your guns for a while, until things calm down."

That was the position of the British government in 1775 when soldiers

were sent to disarm the citizens of Lexington and Concord, Mass.



LaPierre's comments are on target.

Wayne LaPierre: Remember New Orleans



http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/21/00957.shtml



Friday, Oct. 21, 2005 12:07 a.m. EDT



National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre has a new rallying cry to spotlight the importance of every American's right to keep and bear arms: "Remember New Orleans."



In a speech earlier this week to the New York chapter of the Sportsmen's Association for Firearms Education, LaPierre painted a compellingpicture of New Orleans residents left defenseless by Hurricane Katrina -as one-third of the city's police force deserted their posts and abandoned the streets to roving bands of looters and thugs.

Here is a partial transcript of LaPierre's rousing address:

"Picture your beloved hometown, the neighborhood where you live. Hold that image in your head. Now imagine that a massive natural disaster has transformed your beloved neighborhood into a putrid soup of splinters, muck and corpses. A massive natural disaster has pounded and ground your town into an ugly gravy of dead, toxic garbage ... .

"There's no power to run a single thing that makes a sound. There's no water to bring in hydration or carry away waste. All life is stagnant around you - and dying.

"You can't call anyone. No one can call you. Phone lines and cell towersare down. 911 is gone. Police, fire, ambulance - the safety net of normal life -is completely gone. Think about what that would feel like. There's no one but you.

"The shadows of armed looters and thugs begin combing the streets with hard eyes and hungry looks. They take what they want. They rape who they want. They kill at will.

Every exit is impassable, so leaving is impossible. But staying is unimaginable. Life has been reduced to merely breathing, devoid of the barest essentials. Your throat throbs for water. Your gut aches for food. And both hungers are eclipsed by the inevitable fight for survival against those who would take your home, your wife and your life.

"It's a hellish nightmare of hopelessness, helpless terror - bigger than your brain can almost imagine ... ."You hear nothing but the buzz of mosquitoes, occasional shouts for help - and gunshots and looting in the dark.

"But you have a firearm.

"At dawn, a few neighbors emerge from their houses. Some of them also have guns. And you get together with them and you agree to take a stand - just as good people have done since civilization was formed.

"Until civilization returns, you band together to protect those who can't protect themselves. You realize suddenly that you're part of the militia in the truest historic sense of the word. "You've got a lot of single mothers with kids on your street ... .Everyone's doors and windows are wide open - they've been destroyed.

"So you tell the single mothers: 'If you have any trouble, just scream. We'll hear you. We'll be there.'

"You spray-paint sheets of plywood with big red letters - 'We are home. We have guns. We will shoot.'

"And you know, because even the New York Times carried a picture of it - that's exactly what they did in neighborhood after neighborhood all over the Gulf states. Not in some foreign country - here in the U.S.A. Roving gangs see your sign, they see your guns and what do they do? They stay away.

"Those guns and nothing else during that time gave the hopeless people ...hope. In the midst of all that misery you're struck at that moment by the beauty and the salvation of second amendment freedom in the United States of America ...

"The armed authorities finally arrive. They blame a broken levee for your predicament. But then, something you couldn't imagine happening, happens. They destroy the one thing that was standing there between you and anarchy - the second amendment.

"They start confiscating firearms from the law abiding. Swat-style teams start swarming block-by-block as if on a war footing. They're tense, they're jumpy and they're trained for urban warfare ...

"Keep in mind, these military folks, these police folks - they were on our side. They didn't want to carry out this order that was given by the police chief of New Orleans ... In fact, they were outraged over what they'd been ordered to do. "A reporter asked one of them - 'You mean [you might have to] shoot an American?' And the soldier said 'yes.' "But the Americans he was talking about shooting, they weren't criminals. They were brave people who were simply left behind when the hurricane hit in one of the most corrupt cities in the United States of America.

"New Orleans was the first city in American history to disarm peaceable American citizens door-to-door at gunpoint. And I'll tell you this as we sit here today - it must be the last ... .

"With your help, the National Rifle Association is going to make sure it never happens again. We're going to go state-by-state and change every state law that has some type of emergency powers statute that allows authorities to regulate or confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens when an emergency is declared ...

"The example of New Orleans is going to become the worst fear of those who want to ban guns in the good old U.S.A. Never again can the anti-gunners claim that honest citizens don't need firearms because the police and the govenment are going to be there to protect you ...

"And we've got a good slogan that you're going to hear from one end ofthe country to the other. And that slogan is: Remember New Orleans ...

"The next time anyone says to you: 'Are you just afraid or paranoid?'

Look them straight in the eye and say: Remember New Orleans.

"If they ask you, 'Why does anyone need to own a gun?' Remember New Orleans.

"If they say to you, "Why does anyone need a high-capacity magazine?"

Look them straight in the eye and say: Remember New Orleans.

"What's wrong with a 15-day waiting period? Remember New Orleans.

"What makes you think the government would ever confiscate your gun?

Remember New Orleans.

"Is the second amendment relevant in the 21st Century? Remember New Orleans.

"That's our battle cry and let's never, ever let them forget it."

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"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." --George Washington



88 posted on 11/22/2005 10:42:42 AM PST by BOBWADE ("Nothing in life can be achieved without a little sweat and hard work")
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To: HairOfTheDog

I wouldn't live in a state with "Firearms Owner Registration" stuff. Left Cali after the AWB was passed. I'll move again if I have to.


89 posted on 11/22/2005 10:42:46 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: kiriath_jearim
I agree with the article, and reducing the number of shoes one can own too! I have information that indicates reducing the pairs of shoes allowed in peoples closets to four, will lower the consuption of gasoline (in the US) by 100 million gallons. This in turn will reduce the number of deaths per year (in the US) by over 777 people!

Now just imagine if we could mandate this shoe reduction worldwide !?

satire off

90 posted on 11/22/2005 10:45:36 AM PST by veracious
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To: kiriath_jearim

Never sell a gun. By another instead.


91 posted on 11/22/2005 10:53:23 AM PST by dersepp (I Am A Militia Of One)
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To: TC Rider
Mmmmmm, a Smith and Wesson 1911 Doug Koenig Pistol.


The image you posted is considered gun porn where I come from.
Me like.....
92 posted on 11/22/2005 10:56:23 AM PST by 109ACS (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!)
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To: 109ACS
The image you posted is considered gun porn where I come from.

Me like.....

Yeah, it is, isn't it. Heh heh.

93 posted on 11/22/2005 10:57:51 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

bah.. pick anything on ebay and ask why does a person need so many of those? i don't question why my fiancee needs 42 pairs of shoes, she doesn't question why i need as many guns as i have.
"too many" is defined by how much room you have to hold them and how many you can afford. for example, until i get another safe, one more long gun would be one too many.


94 posted on 11/22/2005 11:04:30 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: TC Rider
Mmmmmm, a Smith and Wesson 1911 Doug Koenig Pistol.

I met Doug once many years ago, at a match. It was the USPSA Indoor Nationals, and many of the top shooters in the country were there, including Rob Leatham and Doug Koenig. Doug won the match, and seemed like a very nice guy.

Mark

95 posted on 11/22/2005 11:04:44 AM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: Rogle

"Hiding them away just makes kids curious about them and if they get their hands on them, they do not respect what can be done or handle them in an unsafe manner."

This is a good point and curiosity does motivate children to want to handle guns. I make all of my guns available for my children to handle on request and under my supervision, once they have demonstrated the skill to clear and handle my guns safely.


96 posted on 11/22/2005 11:06:06 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: Joe Brower

BANG-BUMP.

97 posted on 11/22/2005 11:06:39 AM PST by kstewskis ("Thank you ladies and gentlemen, you've been a wonderful audience" ...Rocky Rhodes)
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To: MarkL
I met Doug once many years ago, at a match. It was the USPSA Indoor Nationals, and many of the top shooters in the country were there, including Rob Leatham and Doug Koenig. Doug won the match, and seemed like a very nice guy.

I hope so, otherwise I'll have to polish his name off the slide. The S&W 1911 has a great reputation, his has most of the mods I'd probably make, already done, at a good price to boot.

98 posted on 11/22/2005 11:08:47 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

More fun in the endless nightmare world of Romneyland.

Massofcommies should be paved over and forgotten.


99 posted on 11/22/2005 11:14:18 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: ericthecurdog

Go right ahead..


100 posted on 11/22/2005 1:30:35 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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