Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

U.S. Marines: Ferocious, lethal and legal
North County Times ^ | Nov 22, 2005 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 11/22/2005 8:25:19 AM PST by JeeperFreeper

Our view: Italian criticism of tactics misplaced, as is foolish Pentagon dissembling

International critics are wrong to brand U.S. Marines as war criminals because troops have used incendiary weapons in combat. Almost as wrong are the Pentagon spokespeople who undermine our Marines by denying or otherwise trying to hide this fact of warfare.

As reported Sunday by North County Times reporter Darrin Mortenson, there is an Internet campaign that accuses U.S. forces of using chemical weapons in Iraq in violation of international law. The accusations are bunk, but their profile was raised two weeks ago by a documentary aired on Italy's state-run television broadcast network.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraqwar; usmarines; whitephosphorous
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last
Some of the media get it because they had reporters on the scene, not in a hotel in Bagdhad or a studio in N.Y. The pogue spokespersons at the Pentagon haven't a clue about the ground combat and should not be allowed near a microphone. Semper Fidelis, Marines
1 posted on 11/22/2005 8:25:19 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper

Havn't heard pogue in a while, made me laugh... And you are dead on.

Semper Fi

-B


2 posted on 11/22/2005 8:33:45 AM PST by NYleatherneck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper

The mission is to kill terrrorists, not make the hand wringing Political Leftists feel good about themselves. Answer to these twits should be "Go play in your room Junior, the Adults are too busy to deal with your self absorbed tempertantrum right now". Killing the terrorists is the mission. What ever weapon does the most killing with the least risk to our people, use it.


3 posted on 11/22/2005 8:34:50 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Cowards cut and run, Marines never do" Congresswoman Jean Schmidt (Rep-Ohio))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper

Pogue..........damn it's been a long time since I even thought of that one.


4 posted on 11/22/2005 8:37:18 AM PST by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper

Is this the same Italian TV station that gave $8 million to the terrorists (to buy weapons to kill our soldiers) to ransome one of their commie reporters?


5 posted on 11/22/2005 8:38:26 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: chesty_puller

Yeah, but does it ever fit. Conjures up images of lazy, fat, scared pogues wandering the hotel lobby in search of pogey bait, when they should be covering the war.

Semper fidelis


6 posted on 11/22/2005 8:43:22 AM PST by Gulf War One
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Blood of Tyrants

It's state run, like PBS here, I guess. Certainly seems to be run with same disrepsect for the truth as ours, that's for sure. Go read the srticle and spread the word. The reporters were there when this happened. It was mortars and directed on enemy targets.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 8:44:03 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper

Just hearing that word brings me back. Pogue sure fits these A.H.s at the pentagon who need to take a page out of Rumsfeld's book (in a war we kill people and break things too bad) paraphrased of course.

Marine before it was popular!

Stumpy


8 posted on 11/22/2005 8:46:57 AM PST by MrStumpy (Its awful embarrassing to get your butt kicked by a one legged man)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Gulf War One

Matt Lauer covered the opening phases of OIF from the balcony of his hotel in Doha, Qatar. Even though CENTCOM had a huge media center on base, Pogue Matt stayed in his hotel.


9 posted on 11/22/2005 8:48:06 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper
I didnt know WP was outlawed. We used the hell out of it in Nam include WP grenades, Nothing breaks up an attack like WP. If it burned through the bodies of terrorists and caused them extreme agony I say use more of it.
10 posted on 11/22/2005 8:49:32 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Americanexpat

It's not illegal; nor is napalm. And the Marines still use both with effect. Naplam was used to clear some fortified building on one side of bridge in initial invasion.Result: KFM, Kentucky Fried mujadeen.


11 posted on 11/22/2005 8:54:56 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper

Willie Pete ... nah. Napalm sticks to hippies better.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 8:57:34 AM PST by JoeGar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper
I know it isn´t illegal, should have used the sarcasm thing. As far as I am concerned anything we use that will kill the enemy and keep our soldiers and Marines alive is just fine.
13 posted on 11/22/2005 9:06:48 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Americanexpat

Amen to that.


14 posted on 11/22/2005 9:15:27 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper
I think that we ought to nip this stuff in the bud, this effort by non-involved pantywaist countries like Belgium to take jurisdiction of the conduct of our troops in wars that have nothing to do with Belgium, and thus jeopardize our troops' movement through the world. Can you imagine that they could indict one of our Marines, and then he can't go anywhere in Europe or even to South America, because he could be subject to extradition!!!

We need to make it a federal crime to do that to our troops, make the Euroweenies individually liable in US courts, seize their assets under anti-terrorism laws (because they are supporting the terrorists by these actions), and impose sanctions on the governments that support the "international" courts or harbor them. Let those who threaten our armed forces feel threatened themselves.

15 posted on 11/22/2005 9:16:04 AM PST by Defiant (Dar al Salaam will exist when the entire world submits to American leadership.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JeeperFreeper
The Pentagon did not deny its use. A State Dept. moron said the WP was used to illuminate targets (because "white phosphorous" sound just like "magnesium" it was an easy mistake to make). Once again a newspaper editorial is riddled with factual errors.
16 posted on 11/22/2005 9:25:43 AM PST by Dilbert56
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #17 Removed by Moderator

To: MNJohnnie

The mission is to kill terrorists, not make the hand wringing Political Leftists feel good about themselves. Answer to these twits should be "Go play in your room Junior, the Adults are too busy to deal with your self absorbed tempertantrum right now". Killing the terrorists is the mission. What ever weapon does the most killing with the least risk to our people, use it.

Not only that, but whatever it takes and also whatever hurts the most. Terrorists are just like anyone else, pain is something you remember and try to avoid. Also seeing your buddy light up like a sparkler on the 4th of July will definitely be something you will never forget! I think we ought to load them with pig grease too! Wonder how they would react if they knew not only are they likely to die, but be stopped from meeting their 52 virgins. Just a thought......


18 posted on 11/22/2005 9:33:15 AM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: PoplarWill

A "pogue" generally refers to office clerk types. Most ground combat arms types, artillery and tankers , are spared the term. There are two theories as to its origin. One has its origin as to a Naval practice of trading candy bars ("pogey bait") to a clerk typist in admin for a favor. The more current theory is that it is an acronym for "Persons Other than Grunts". Grunts use it on nearly every one not an "go outside the wire and fight" infantryman or Corpsman. They use it quite disrespectfully.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 9:58:52 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: PoplarWill

From: http://grunt.space.swri.edu/usmcdict.htm

POGUE: lazy individual, also office worker.

POGEY BAIT: candy, sweets.


20 posted on 11/22/2005 10:01:50 AM PST by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson