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Merry Christmas is NOT Offensive—Jews Should Protect Religious Freedom for Everyone
Toward Tradition (email) ^ | Nov. 22, 2005 | Daniel Lapin

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:36:12 AM PST by Alouette

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1 posted on 11/22/2005 7:36:13 AM PST by Alouette
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2 posted on 11/22/2005 7:36:41 AM PST by Alouette (Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum (thanx: Pettigru).)
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Merry Christmas, everyone.


3 posted on 11/22/2005 7:38:55 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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I'm guessing most of this anti-Christmas sentiment comes from the athesist, America-hating left and not the Jewish population.


4 posted on 11/22/2005 7:41:39 AM PST by Millee ("Life is just one damned thing after another" - Elbert Hubbard)
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Yes, and God bless us all...now back to work Cratchet!


5 posted on 11/22/2005 7:43:10 AM PST by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: Alouette

All this concern about wishing a Merry Christmas during Advent. The Christmas season extends for 12 days, but when was the last time anyone wished you a Merry Christmas on December 28th?


8 posted on 11/22/2005 7:57:25 AM PST by NC28203
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Excellent points! I don't want to hear "Merry Christmas" in the first half of November, thanks very much. Nor in the first half of December ...

I think there would be much less conflict about "Christmas" if it hadn't taken over two whole months of the year.


9 posted on 11/22/2005 7:59:08 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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Oh no! The C word!!! Actually I saw a "Christmas Blend" in Starbucks and was wondering what happened. They actually said the C word in their ads. Simply amazing.


10 posted on 11/22/2005 8:01:27 AM PST by jjm2111 (99.7 FM Radio Kuwait)
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I consider myself a fairly observant Jew, and I truly enjoyed the Thanksgiving and Christmas assemblies at my grammar school in the 1960s in suburban Chicago. We sang songs with religious overtones (including, for example, Silent Night -- in English and German), and I never felt ostracised, discriminated against, made to feel out of the mainstream, etc.

On the other hand, I remember once in the late 1980s, while working at a large corporate law firm in NYC, I called out "Merry Christmas" to the lawyers and support staff who were still working when I left on Christmas Eve, and they looked at me with a silent reproach, like I had spit into the soup.


11 posted on 11/22/2005 8:01:35 AM PST by Piranha
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I think there would be much less conflict about "Christmas" if it hadn't taken over two whole months of the year.

I think there would be much less conflict about "Christmas" if it hadn't been turned into a secular holiday during the first half of the 20th Century. As I see it, because Christmas moved into American culture during a period in which the US was still evolving its separation of church and state, the holiday became increasingly stripped of its religious meaning. By being something for everyone, ironically, the holiday became nothing significant.

In my opinion, the best thing to do to give Christmas its original, religious, meaning, would be to give it back to the church and de-emphasize it in the American cultural calendar, where it means nothing more than sales, football games and time off from work for most Americans.

12 posted on 11/22/2005 8:05:49 AM PST by Piranha
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Yep, I tell my Jewish friends Happy New Year at Rosh Hoshana, protect religious freedom, don't water it down!


13 posted on 11/22/2005 8:06:06 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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Happymerry ChrismaHanaKwanzikah


14 posted on 11/22/2005 8:16:06 AM PST by Nachum
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15 posted on 11/22/2005 8:16:10 AM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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In my opinion, the best thing to do to give Christmas its original, religious, meaning, would be to give it back to the church

I agree. I think all religious holidays should be observed in homes and religious institutions, not in offices and schools. In my opinion, the tendency for offices and schools to be treated as the center of people's lives is damaging in many ways.

16 posted on 11/22/2005 8:25:18 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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Merry Christmas to all.
There, I said it.


17 posted on 11/22/2005 8:32:31 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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Just look at France. Only a religion can stand up to another religion. Christianity could have defended France, but secularism wiped pushed Christianity into retreat. Now, Islamic fundamentalism has its way because there is nobody with moral fervor to resist. Secularism promotes cowardice, not courage and that is bad for everyone.

The Jews in France are leaving because they are too small in numbers to affect legislation that would protect all PEACEFUL religions and actually assisted in the secularization of the country. Hopefully they have learned the lesson that Christians will be their staunchest allies. If they will let them be.

18 posted on 11/22/2005 8:35:32 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Thanks for the article.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 8:36:08 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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BUMP!


20 posted on 11/22/2005 8:41:11 AM PST by onedoug
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