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Suspect confesses to 'intentional' murder [Ludwig, 18, and Borden, 14, describe Borden murders]
Lancaster PA Intelligencer Journal ^ | Nov 22, 2005 9:48 AM EST | Justin Quinn, Intelligencer Journal Staff

Posted on 11/22/2005 7:33:07 AM PST by newgeezer

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1 posted on 11/22/2005 7:33:09 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: newgeezer

Is this girl going to face any charges? If this isnt worthy of the death penalty nothing is.


2 posted on 11/22/2005 7:40:46 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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"Is this girl going to face any charges?"

Looks like it, according to an earlier article.

" If this isnt worthy of the death penalty nothing is."

Because of her age (and SCOTUS),she would get life in prison.


3 posted on 11/22/2005 7:42:43 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: newgeezer
Authorities charged Ludwig with kidnapping Kara after the slayings. They now believe she willingly fled with Ludwig.

This is BS. She can't go "willingly" because she is a minor. She cannot make legally that decision. It's like saying she "willingly" signed a contract to buy a house.

4 posted on 11/22/2005 7:43:57 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: newgeezer

Cowardly back-shooting SOB.


5 posted on 11/22/2005 7:44:53 AM PST by BadAndy (Note to Democrats: Benedict Arnold also called himself a patriot.)
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To: newgeezer
What a surprise!

NOT!

6 posted on 11/22/2005 7:44:57 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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To: newgeezer

I'm starting my stopwatch now. Let's see how long it takes for her lawyer to claim she was monstrously abused by both parents.


7 posted on 11/22/2005 7:46:18 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: AppyPappy

I would think that you're right. But it would get Ludwig off the hook for kidnapping.


8 posted on 11/22/2005 7:47:32 AM PST by twigs
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To: newgeezer; mhking

Just Damn


9 posted on 11/22/2005 7:49:40 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Graymatter

She's with family supposedly. Can you imagine being her caretaker? I wouldn't let her within 2 miles of my family.


10 posted on 11/22/2005 7:50:17 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

ping


11 posted on 11/22/2005 7:51:03 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Graymatter

My thoughts exactly. It will be a long time before these murdered parents will be allowed to "rest in peace". They will be publicly maligned with the most hideous (and false) accusations.


12 posted on 11/22/2005 7:51:40 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: twigs; AppyPappy
But it would get Ludwig off the hook for kidnapping.

It shouldn't. The kidnapping charge should stick, just as it would if a 5-year-old went with him "willingly."

I think that's the point.

13 posted on 11/22/2005 7:51:43 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: bonfire

I wonder if this girl is a decendant of the "infamous" Lizzie Borden? Strange coincidence.


14 posted on 11/22/2005 7:52:00 AM PST by Rocket1968 (Durbin must resign - NOW!)
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To: newgeezer

Geeze, I saw that "Borden" in the headline & I thought Of Lizzy Borden taking that axe again.


15 posted on 11/22/2005 7:52:46 AM PST by NutmegDevil
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She was kidnapped, but if they end up charging this girl, then the kidnapping charge against Ludwig would possibly be seen as contradictory to a jury.


16 posted on 11/22/2005 7:54:02 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: newgeezer

Well, I heard locally that the authorities were going to drop kidnapping charges.


17 posted on 11/22/2005 7:54:14 AM PST by twigs
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To: sasafras
Is this girl going to face any charges? If this isnt worthy of the death penalty nothing is.

What charges? Unless you can prove she knew beforehand that he was going to do it and planned to leave with him after the deed was done, there's nothing to charge.

18 posted on 11/22/2005 7:54:34 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: newgeezer

I think I had read in an earlier thread that she would be charged as an adult.

It may be that PA recognizes 'adulthood' at an earlier age than most.

Not sure tho.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 7:55:19 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NutmegDevil

Lizzie Borden
Took an axe
And gave her mother
Forty whacks

When she saw
what she had done
She gave her father
Forty one


20 posted on 11/22/2005 7:55:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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