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To: rhombus
So, let's not fret too much about what the media thinks. They don't seem to realize that we can 'lose the battle' for Iraq, and still win the war.

I wouldn't be so hopeful about winning the war if the battle for Iraq were lost.

I wouldn't either, but we're not actually losing (hence the quotes around 'lose the battle'). The media will try and portray, for domestic political purposes, that the Democrats demanded a withdrawl, we withdrew, ergo, the Democrats won.

Let them think that all they want. History will prove them wrong.

The real battle is for Iraq's future, not to maintain the U.S. occupation indefinitely. The Democrats can pretend that once we pull out, we lose, but that's not the case. We win or lose defined by the success of the Iraqi government to function as a moderate republic. The Democrats are opposing what they percieve our victory conditions to be, not our real ones.

52 posted on 11/22/2005 6:11:01 AM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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To: Steel Wolf
The real battle is for Iraq's future, not to maintain the U.S. occupation indefinitely. The Democrats can pretend that once we pull out, we lose, but that's not the case. We win or lose defined by the success of the Iraqi government to function as a moderate republic. The Democrats are opposing what they percieve our victory conditions to be, not our real ones.

Agreed. But the media is one front on this war and one we should not ignore. Vietnam was a loss not because we pulled out but because we cut off aid and the South collapsed. A MSM inspired, Democrat controlled legislature could do the same thing a couple of years down the road. That coupled with an Iranian invation... This would leave a lot of people saying it wasn't worth it, we should mind our own business, etc. Of course that's only one scenario. I'm agreeing wholeheartedly with what you are writing, I'm just pointing out that MSM spin should not be ignored but addressed head-on.

57 posted on 11/22/2005 6:19:41 AM PST by rhombus
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