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Great. Hopefully Bush and Rice don't cave in. Nobody wants the US military to be there forever. Calling for time table only make enemy happy to wait until their time arrives.
1 posted on 11/22/2005 5:24:25 AM PST by paudio
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Hopefully Bush and Rice don't cave in....

I've probably been watching too many reruns of The West Wing but I was thinking that with polls showing the numbers for the GOP as a whole tanking and the off year elections coming up, this may be a purely a matter of political survival whereby the Administration can extract itself from a bloody mess and still save face. after all, when they handed over control to the nominal newly installed government, they promised if the Iraquis ever asked the U.S. to leave, we would. This is an insurgency with terrorists not "freedom fighters" or resistance. Methinks the job will never get done....enough. I personally don't advocate leaving until it's over....over there. I'm merely suggesting a possible strategy that might have been leaked by political operatives as a device.

163 posted on 11/22/2005 10:06:24 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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Make them sign a treaty of some sort and tell them once the coalition forces leave they will not come back, even if begged.


178 posted on 11/22/2005 10:30:20 AM PST by msnimje (Bob Woodward is the Grinch who stole Fitzmas.....................................................)
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Direct result of the leftists here demanding the same thing.


186 posted on 11/22/2005 10:56:17 AM PST by rintense
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If the Sunni Leadership supports the war against America and they were elected by their own people then that means all Sunnis are the self declared enemy. BOMBS AWAY!!!
202 posted on 11/22/2005 1:24:47 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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Fox News is no different from the MSM in using standardized media-speak:

"U.S.-led forces" instead of (international) Coalition forces.


205 posted on 11/22/2005 1:48:30 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Newbie since June 4, 2004)
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"condemned terrorism, but was a clear acknowledgment of the Sunni position that insurgents should not be labeled as terrorists if their operations do not target innocent civilians or institutions designed to provide for the welfare of Iraqi citizens."

Then the communique is nothing more than a joke. This gives them the right to use violence as a form of protest.

206 posted on 11/22/2005 1:53:03 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Analysis: Conference talks first step

At first glance the conference appeared to be calling for the withdrawal of U.S.-led coalition forces. But there was broad agreement that the U.S. presence should end gradually as Iraq builds its own security forces to replace the foreign troops.

211 posted on 11/22/2005 2:42:27 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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These are factional leaders. The elected gov't of Iraq would be the one to listen to.


213 posted on 11/22/2005 2:46:47 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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Odd, they didn't call for a terrorist or insurgent withdrawal timetable? /s


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217 posted on 11/22/2005 3:21:35 PM PST by papasmurf (I watched the 11/18/05-SMACKDOWN in Congress!!!)
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If the US left tomorrow, what do you think the average lifespan of an Iraqi politician would be? Somehow I doubt they want us to leave immediately.


226 posted on 11/22/2005 4:55:37 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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Hey folks, if the Iraqis want us out, it's their country. No need to stay and get our boys killed in a place we aren't wanted. If they want their fate in their own hands, then we need to step out of the way and let them do it themselves.


227 posted on 11/22/2005 5:04:09 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Show them no mercy, for you shall receive none!)
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With the success we have been having of not only putting the countries infrastructure back in place, but making it even more better than it ever has, combined with the training of Iraqis to take over the security of their towns, along with next years US congressional elections, I bet we will see a dramatic drop in the number of troops in 2006. Basically, we will be saying, hey, we've helped you have your elections, and the sh*tters are working...its time for you to take the reins.


246 posted on 11/23/2005 2:17:56 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("So far, so good. But this is only phase one."-- Captain America)
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This seems to have been a relatively meaningless resolution, although naturally AP puts the worst possible construction on it.

It was an effort of the various Muslim factions to get together and present the appearance of a unified front, but in point of fact they are not unified:

"Shiites had been strongly opposed to participation in the conference by Sunni Arab officials from the former Saddam regime or from pro-insurgency groups. That objection seemed to have been glossed over in the communique.

"The Cairo meeting was marred by differences between participants at times, and at one point Shiite and Kurdish delegates stormed out of a closed session when one of the speakers said they had sold out to the Americans."

Also, the article says that no timetable was specified or agreed on. In other words, this was a failed exercise in talk, talk, talk for PR purposes.


260 posted on 11/23/2005 7:26:54 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Sounds like a bunch of shi'ite to me.


263 posted on 11/26/2005 2:43:54 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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They keep using the term "leaders" not the "Iraqi government."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the "leaders" they are speaking about are most likely Mullahs.


275 posted on 11/30/2005 10:03:37 AM PST by beachn4fun (T-minus 10 and counting.............)
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