Rep. John Murtha Urged Somalia Pullout in '93

NewsMax ^ | November 21, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

[wyattearp]

Upon his return he proclaimed to the world that the Mogadishu defeat had a devastating impact on the Rangers' morale.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Leaving our troops hanging without armor after repeated requests for tanks, personnel carriers, etc negatively impacted morale. Having to call on the Pakistanis for armor, etc in the middle of a fierce firefight because our own country wasn't providing the materials that we needed negatively impacted morale. Pulling our troops out before we were able to get some payback negatively impacted morale.

Our troops were not defeated in Mogadishu. They got a very bloody nose due to bad planning and lack of support, and they were pulled out without being allowed to swing back.

[Txsleuth]

Thank you WCC---great article...

I KNEW this Murtha guy was a "Marine Hero" fraud!!!

[nicko]

we won that fight by any measurable standard...but you're right- it really, really sucked big time to not take it back to those dickweeds; to sit behind concrete for the next two months with our thumbs up our fourth point of contact...I was pissed then, and I guess I'm still pissed- once we had smoked up every khat chewing asshole in the Mog, I was all for going back home, but I did not take kindly to leaving the way we did- no fucking parade for us at FTCKY...Murtha was wrong then- he's still wrong...

[jonno]

bump

[PeterFinn]

True. Petain's Vichy government didn't want us there and they didn't want us in North Africa, either.

The French were not our allies in WW2.

Hell, DeGaulle was such a pain that both Eisenhower and Churchill entertained having him assassinated. DeGaulle could hardly be called an ally of ours. The SOB even tried to go join the Warsaw Pact at one point in 1947-48.

[eyespysomething]

Murtha should've advised Clinton to pull out of Monica.

[dfwgator]

DeGaulle could hardly be called an ally of ours. The SOB even tried to go join the Warsaw Pact at one point in 1947-48.

Yes, and of course, you know what it took to keep France from doing that? Assuring them they could keep their IndoChina colonies. Say hello to Dien Bien Phu, and the Vietnam War.

[freedomcrusader]

Murtha = traitor

[PogySailor]

IMHO, he's called a "hawk" only because he has supported military spending. And that seems to be a common thread with Democrats that oppose every actual USE of the military. They look at the military as just another jobs/pork program to sling at their constituents.

[Ciexyz]

I'm ashamed that Murtha ia a PA representative.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

After terrorists attacked U.S. troops in Mogadishu, Somalia 12 years ago, anti-Iraq war Democrat, Rep. John Murtha urged then-President Clinton to begin a complete pullout of U.S. troops from the region.

All future US foriegn policy: Do not listen to John Murtha.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Murtha is seeking CYA to insulate his sorry arse over whats about to come down.

Read the entire "The Hill" article, very interesting.

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/101805/spending.html

"But Murtha also has raised some watchdogs’ concerns because his brother Robert “Kit” Murtha runs KSA Consulting, a lobbying group that represents some 10 smaller defense companies. In 2004, Murtha’s brother was able to secure $20 million in the defense-spending bill for his clients. Kit Murtha repeatedly has denied working directly with his brother’s office"

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/11/19/095435.php

"Republican lawmakers say that ties between Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) and his brother's lobbying firm, KSA Consulting, may warrant investigation by the House ethics committee...
According to a June 13 article in the Los Angeles Times, the fiscal 2005 defense appropriations bill included more than $20 million in funding for at least 10 companies for whom KSA lobbied. Carmen Scialabba, a longtime Murtha aide, works at KSA as well.


KSA directly lobbied Murtha's office on behalf of seven companies, and a Murtha aide told a defense contractor that it should retain KSA to represent it, according to the LA Times.

In early 2004, Murtha reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. A company called Lennar Inc. had right to the land, and Laurence Pelosi, nephew to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), was an executive with the firm at that time.

Murtha also inserted earmarks in defense bills that steered millions of dollars in federal research funds toward companies owned by children of fellow Pennsylvania Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D). .."

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/GOP_calls_for_ethics_investigation_into_1118.html

http://dailydelay.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_dailydelay_archive.html

http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_11_13_corner-archive.asp

http://www.thepoliticalchase.com/


http://blogs.aol.fr/demorpion/R-Actions

"The chairman of the Defense Appropriations subcommittee at the time, Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), had been caught in the FBI's ABSCAM sting operation in which an agent disguised as a Saudi sheik offered members of Congress large cash bribes. O'Neill put Wilson on the Ethics Committee to save Murtha, which he did."