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Adults enforce wrong standard for school kids (Surprising editorial from Pitts)
Miami Herald ^ | 11/21/2002 | BY LEONARD PITTS JR.

Posted on 11/21/2005 8:19:30 AM PST by FerdieMurphy

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I'd agree, except that my high school football team used to sprint for the buses whenever they won an away game, because they knew that if the fans and players of the losing team caught them, it would not be pretty.

Leonard would throw that in.

1 posted on 11/21/2005 8:19:32 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy
How to win, how to lose and how to be an adult either way.

If there's going to be a training class on this, can we get the Democrats to sign up?

2 posted on 11/21/2005 8:22:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: FerdieMurphy
Teachers - leading by example - extorting as much money from the community for as little work as possible through the teacher's unions...
3 posted on 11/21/2005 8:24:15 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Hardly.

That being said I have to admit that we have many RINO RepublicRATs who wouldn't sign up either.

4 posted on 11/21/2005 8:28:04 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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Here's an idea: get rid of athletic teams in schools. Use the money saved for Actual Education. Leave the games for after-school playtime for the kiddies on their own parents dimes.


5 posted on 11/21/2005 8:34:28 AM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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``There's a standard you are required to live up to and if you don't, you will be held accountable, period.''

That is exactly right. My girls played soccer and the coaches noticed the spitting thing going on. They put a stop to it instantly by explaining that if it ever happened again, the team would not play.

6 posted on 11/21/2005 8:45:15 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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If they do that then the same should go for college sports as well. It's ridiculous when colleges go outside the state to entice and enroll players.

That's sportsmanship?

8 posted on 11/21/2005 8:53:47 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: Clock King

The parents are right there alongside the kids, yelling at the referees, harassing the coaches, and beating to the point of killing, anyone who dares to stand in their kids way. Is it any wonder that the kids aren't doing any better? The civility was lost years ago and we are now reaping what was sowed.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 9:00:31 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: orionblamblam

Great idea!


10 posted on 11/21/2005 9:11:38 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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I coach a high school lacrosse team and I'm astounded by this ruling. The after-game handshake has always been part of our sport. I've never known of an incident in 30 years of playing and coaching.

If they're not going to teach sportmanship as part of high school athletics, maybe they should end the program.


11 posted on 11/21/2005 9:14:45 AM PST by BigBobber
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Our local high school football team goes a step beyond the handshake; it has a postgame prayer and invites the other team to join.

And they usually do.


12 posted on 11/21/2005 9:17:33 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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> The parents are right there alongside the kids, yelling at the referees, harassing the coaches, and beating to the point of killing, anyone who dares to stand in their kids way.

And we have people here on FR who get snippy about "too many nerds." Bah. When did you see a chess-match riot? When was the last time you saw a parent clock another parent upside the head with a chair at a spelling bee?

Bah. Bring on the nerds and the geeks in school. If the jocks want to go beat the tar out of each other... do it off school property, off school time, and off the taxpayers dollar. Either sell off the athletic fields, or turn them into BattleBot arenas and the like... something acedemically *useful.*


13 posted on 11/21/2005 9:18:57 AM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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Spoken like a true nerd who couldn't compete on the athletic field.

Of course, we could all emulate Bobby Fisher...


14 posted on 11/21/2005 9:26:19 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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>Our local high school football team goes a step beyond the handshake; it has a postgame prayer and invites the other team to join. <

Most college teams in the SEC do the same thing.My daughters High school Soccer team had a drink ministry.They would not only shake hands but give the girls on the other team a Gatorade.

When I coached young kids I hated the line up thing.i tried to teah the kids to go mingle and be genuine.When we did put them in a line I walked the line insisting the girls look them in the eye and congratulate them not just slap hands.


15 posted on 11/21/2005 9:37:43 AM PST by Blessed
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Most college teams in the SEC do the same thing

And we're in the SEC region. Most of the fiercest rivalries are in the SEC, but so are the sportsmen.

16 posted on 11/21/2005 9:41:25 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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Maybe the damn commies are right. Children should be raised communally or something, because WHERE THE H*** ARE THE PARENTS???!!! Don't people teach their kids proper behavior anymore? Let me guess, are these Black schools acting this stupid?

The big difference in schools between now and back in the day is the fact that parents seem to automatically take the side of their children over the school. Parents are awfully quick now to threaten lawsuits anytime their little darlings are disciplined. And this "question authority" impulse cuts across class and racial lines.

17 posted on 11/21/2005 9:42:21 AM PST by NYCVirago
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I wondered then what I wonder now: What is wrong with saying to our young people: ``There's a standard you are required to live up to and if you don't, you will be held accountable, period.''

Easy, tell the kids if they can't shake hands like civilized people, they're off the team. Then mean it. Ban them from high school sports for the duration of their stay. An unintended consequence might be that it'll stop the criminalization of sports.

18 posted on 11/21/2005 9:47:09 AM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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> Spoken like a true nerd who couldn't compete on the athletic field.

And why would I want to?

> Of course, we could all emulate Bobby Fisher...

I suppose that's possible. Or we could all emulate Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk...

Or, we could emulate the high school football team, who you can see bagging groceries or pumping gas or pushing a broom, dreaming about the Good Old Days which are now long past and never to return.

Being a nerd means the future is open and infinite. Being a jock means you peak at 18.


19 posted on 11/21/2005 9:48:42 AM PST by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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this is crap.

over-age teenagers, are expecting real teenagers to
to grovel, to be on the team.

Worse than this, however,
is the NHL, with its
fake fights and fake blood.


20 posted on 11/21/2005 9:52:54 AM PST by greasepaint
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