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LIVE THREAD: VP Cheney slaps the Dems upside the head: C-span 1 at 11 Am EST
11/21/05

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:25:25 AM PST by ken5050

Get ready..make a fresh pot of coffee. Put the baby down for a nap. Hold all your calls.. VP Dick Cheney will be delivering a major response to the Dems who want to cut and run from Iraq in a LIVE speech from the Heritage Foundation. On C-span 1 at 11 AM, scheduled for one hour. and you can expect all the cable news nets to carry it...and then Rush is back today, and will explain it all for us again..and it would NOT surprise me if the Veep turns up as a special guest on Rush's show today..


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; cheney; cheneyspanks; cutandrun; iraq; murtha; oif; olddude
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To: Gucho

Will this speech appear on one of my favorite threads??? ;*)


341 posted on 11/21/2005 8:48:29 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: Peach

My mom called just as he started speaking and I wasn't going to tell her the VP's speech was more important. So will watch for C-Span tonight and hope. Let me know if you see a transcript anywhere.


342 posted on 11/21/2005 8:49:25 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Justanobody
And there is the crux of most of our problems!!

And my reply stands:

It's up to us to repeat these points, over and over again, evertime anyone opens their yap with the leftist talking points.

It's not up to the White House, it's up to us to counter the spin. We've done it before, even over White House objections. Why is this task different?

343 posted on 11/21/2005 8:49:26 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: floriduh voter
403 to 3 House Vote

Not to mention over 60 million voted to stay the course just one short year ago.

344 posted on 11/21/2005 8:50:25 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: popdonnelly
These people don't have the first clue as to what they are talking about. We can defeat the Islamic terrorists now, when they are relatively weak, or face them later, when they are stronger.

This is a key question: is this a situation like Nazi Germany, where an intervention in the early- to mid-30s would have probably ended the threat much more cheaply? Or is it more along the lines of the Spanish American War, where the real rationale for the war was much different from the publicly stated provocation, the explosion of the USS Maine?

It's pretty clear that the situation is far closer to the former than the latter -- we're responding to a legitimate world threat, and not simply building up Cheney's Halliburton stock options.

The question is whether or not we can still have an honest enough national debate about this.

When you get down to it, THAT is the most important issue here. The national Dems are being profoundly dishonest. There's no other way to put it. Framing this in terms of "honest debate" is an incredibly powerful approach. One hates to call it a "political strategy," but in part that's what it is -- and it's not a bad thing, either. The national interest depends on the political defeat of craven politicians (not all of whom inhabit the ranks of the Democrat Party).

345 posted on 11/21/2005 8:50:50 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Txsleuth
There was one woman caller that brought up the article that said that Harry Reid admitted he didn't even READ the intelligence report before he voted on the War Resolution...

Is she the one that said she was tired of the media not showing any of the good things our soldiers were doing in Iraq? I was going to ask which one of you called in. LOL

346 posted on 11/21/2005 8:50:57 AM PST by Krodg
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To: Grampa Dave; Northern Yankee; Victoria Delsoul
Awesome!

It is what it is. These perps need to be called out for what they are... TRAITORS.

347 posted on 11/21/2005 8:51:34 AM PST by kstewskis ("Thank you ladies and gentlemen, you've been a wonderful audience" ...Rocky Rhodes)
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To: ken5050

Good speech by VP Cheney. Focused and on message. The President, the VP and the entire administration need to speak out more often and defend itself from outrageous charges of lying to and misleading of the American people. This is no time to cut and run from the fight in Iraq. Lets finish the job we started.


348 posted on 11/21/2005 8:51:38 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Grampa Dave
EXCELLENTAMUNDO
349 posted on 11/21/2005 8:52:38 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: Txsleuth
C-span said they will re-show Cheney's speech ... after 8:00PM EST TONIGHT

EXCELLENT!!! Thanks sleuth!

350 posted on 11/21/2005 8:53:17 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive

Not to offend you.

Unless anyone's been in a cocoon... it's not just about us. The left is spinning and re-spinning constantly, so the facts have to continue to be put out there; IMO, since it's not being reported anywhere else... the more the better.

Ive heard statistics a million times, and have records that some intel folks probably don't have... and I read them (unlike Reid and five others on the committee), but everytime it's put out there something or the other sparks my memory or an issue I needed to follow through on more (let's face it, with you read the UN and other reports as well as Hussein a decade of defiance... you just don't have energy to check those other links you were thinking about).

So, if you're ready to stand down and are tired of hearing it... by all means do so, the banner will be carried regardless and it's another opportunity for democrats to perhaps think about the facts or check it out.

BTW, When is the last time you even heard any thing good that's being done in Iraq in the HBMedia? A frontpage photo in the NYT of a newly built school for girls, a rejuvenated market business, the revenues and the fully operational oil lines... I thought so.


351 posted on 11/21/2005 8:53:26 AM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
9/11 has nothing to do with anything.

Most libs I've heard say 9-11 occured because the muzzies are mad we've "taken all their oil". Utter nonsense of course.

352 posted on 11/21/2005 8:53:35 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Right on, Dave!!!

NO QUARTER!
353 posted on 11/21/2005 8:54:18 AM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: ken5050
I was being rhetorical..

Oh. Then maybe I do need some things explained to me. Sorry.

Lana Turner + Bachman Turner Overdrive....
354 posted on 11/21/2005 8:54:34 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: ken5050; Peach; Grampa Dave; All

When asked on Fox if the dems could win on this "Bush misled the people" platform:

"We got the intellignce the White House gave us.."
Breux is saying "Stay the course? Why stay the course when we aren't getting anywhere?That's what people are saying..How are we not going to be there next year at this time?..

I am shocked at Breux..I can still be shocked. I have misjudged him...He is a shameless, troop undermining, partisan hack after all.


355 posted on 11/21/2005 8:54:45 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Grampa Dave

Geez grampa... no tradesport up on it yet... but I say, all of the above. It's Biden's turn... and Pelosi of course.


356 posted on 11/21/2005 8:55:12 AM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: ken5050
The more you bust their balls, the louder they are going to squeal, It's a predictable reaction to getting caught telling a bunch of lies.
They should follow this up with the commercial showing all the statements the socialists have made supporting this war.
Bring their lies out of the darkness where they want them to hide and shine a big dose of daylight on them so all can see and fear their treachery.
357 posted on 11/21/2005 8:55:13 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Justanobody

Bump


358 posted on 11/21/2005 8:55:30 AM PST by Gucho
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To: Grampa Dave

#323...GREAT POST!


359 posted on 11/21/2005 8:55:58 AM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Another big lie that the RATS and the MSM are peddling: that Bush said that the threat from Iraq was "imminent."

Bush said no such thing. In fact, he said,"after 9-11, we are not going to wait for the threat from Iraq to become imminent, because then it is too late."

RATS and media are scheming liars.


360 posted on 11/21/2005 8:56:07 AM PST by mwl1
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