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Is Jack Murtha a Coward and a Traitor?
The American Thinker ^ | 11/20/05 | J. Peter Mulhern

Posted on 11/20/2005 10:03:23 AM PST by Kitten Festival

The prize for the most dramatic oratory in the United States Congress in the new millennium goes to fledgling Representative Jean Schmidt. In the midst of debate over whether the House of Representatives should vote on a resolution endorsing immediate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq she conveyed a message she had received from an active duty Marine colonel, to Representative Jack Murtha. Murtha, a decorated Marine veteran, inspired the debate earlier this week by calling for withdrawal from Iraq.

Representative Smith’s message quoting the colonel was simple: “Cowards cut and run, Marines never do.” [snip] When people engage in debate within the boundaries of legitimate disagreement they should be respectful. But we need to maintain those boundaries.

Jack Murtha’s call for immediate disengagement took him far outside the boundaries of legitimate disagreement. He has never been able to articulate any plausible basis for his position on Iraq. There is a simple reason for that. There isn’t one.

Reasonable people cannot differ about whether or not the United States should press forward with our war against the terror masters. For the time being Iraq is inevitably the principal front in that war. A congressman who tries to duck his share of the responsibility for prosecuting that war is displaying moral cowardice. Any American who recommends retreat is injuring his own country and calling his own patriotism into question.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; coward; democrats; iraq; murtha; republicans; traitor; yeshesatraitor
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To: Kitten Festival

Traitor yes.


41 posted on 11/20/2005 10:52:48 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He's done more for our country than we will ever know. He's the man!)
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To: Swiss
.. posted some information to me on another tread that makes suspect that Murtha voted against the South Vietnamese in 1975.

I can believe it. I was in the service then and saw quite a few "Murtha's" in the senior NCO ranks and in the barely competent middle management corps of "Light" colonels. Their service was to themselves and not to the country. Murtha, I believe, is a classic "Colonel Blimp". His kind was the reason that Barry Goldwater included the "Up or Out" provision in his legislation that created the all volunteer services.

42 posted on 11/20/2005 10:53:59 AM PST by elbucko
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To: JCEccles

You could have asked me if I had stopped beating my wife.

Look, Free Speech is messy - deal with it.


43 posted on 11/20/2005 10:55:02 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: muir_redwoods

Ditto.


44 posted on 11/20/2005 10:55:42 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: JCEccles
 
No, I really don't think he believes his message.

He's claiming that "leaving troops in the area, to help if needed" means that we would not be cutting and running.

If we pull troops out, does anyone expect anything other than an all out civil war?  Is Murtha saying; we pull out to Kuwait, a civil war starts, and then we go back in when things are much worse?

I find it hard that a good military man would believe that.

I can't believe the military let this man stay in place for 37 years with that brilliant thinking.

 

 

45 posted on 11/20/2005 10:56:47 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: leadpenny

Murtha took many years of service to America in the military and congress and threw it all out the window in a span of one week. Now he is nothing more than the November version of Cindy Sheehan, a puppet of the media to be disgarded when the holidays take over and no one cares to pay attention again.


46 posted on 11/20/2005 10:57:21 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: leadpenny
So, you don't think his comments have had the effect of undermining the morale of our Marines and encouraging the terrorists who kill them?

What effect do they think they have had?

47 posted on 11/20/2005 10:57:27 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Kitten Festival

Reminds me of the Dave chapelle skit on women dressed like ho's.

Women dressed like ho's say angrily to men who make assumptions about them, "Just because I dress this way does not make me a whore"

D.C.: "ok, imagine I wear a cop's uniform and someone comes running up screamin 'officer, thank god, help us! Wait Wait, just because I dress this way, does not make me a policeman".

D.C: "women, just because you dress that way does not make you a whore, but you are wearing a whores uniform"

Murtha may not be a coward, but he sure is advocating a defeatist cowardly policy.


48 posted on 11/20/2005 10:58:09 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Kitten Festival

I have a feeling we are going to hear a lot more from Jean Schmidt.


49 posted on 11/20/2005 10:58:13 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: HawaiianGecko
He isn't "a good military man." He is a defeatist Democrat, bought and paid for by the America-hating Michael Moore wing of the Democratic Party.

Whatever he might have been in 1966 is irrelevant to what he has become in the interim.

50 posted on 11/20/2005 11:00:10 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: muir_redwoods
Murtha is a senile old fool that was used by Pelosi and others. His actions were taken as a CONGRESSMAN, not a Marine.

In that context he is indeed a traitor and proved it by voting against his own idea.

51 posted on 11/20/2005 11:02:07 AM PST by cynicom
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To: JCEccles

You're making tons of assumptions and I won't try to knock down your straw men. The voters in the PA 12th District will decide Murtha's future.


52 posted on 11/20/2005 11:02:08 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Clara Lou

I agree with you on the name calling. I wish the media and others would report the truth though,she was reading aloud a letter from a Marine. As I understood it the Marine called all of those calling for US to pull out of Iraq cowards, not just Murtha. As usual the media is distorting the truth, and I notice also as usual the distortions are designed to make the dims look good.


53 posted on 11/20/2005 11:03:52 AM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: JCEccles
 
You support the right of a US Congressman to deliberately and publicy undermine the morale of our Marines and to encourage the terrorists who kill them?

No, I don't think that being a fool rises to the level of treason.  It rises to the level of being voted out of office, but it's not treason.  This is a man that has been on the side of the military in congress for many years and one digression (albeit a doozie) does not make one unpatriotic.

If screwing up were grounds for treason, I'm sure all of us would have found our necks stretched long ago.

 

 

54 posted on 11/20/2005 11:05:15 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Facts are neither debatable nor open to "I have a right to this opinion" nonsense.)
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To: Kitten Festival

30 years ago he would have been a traitor but today that word means little. Coward doesn't even apply. He's just a lib. See tagline.


55 posted on 11/20/2005 11:05:26 AM PST by Mr Cobol (.Liberalism isn't a political philosophy. It's a vile combination of sickness and evil—M Schiller)
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To: Kitten Festival

Murtha is a political animal, not in charge of his own destiny, but one who has been coopted by the democrat leadership to say and do things which he probably does not have a desire to say. I think he got together with Reid et.al and they devised a 'make-believe' strategy for devicive, rank, political motives which negatively impact our finest American citizens, the military, and undermines the interest of the USA. In otherwords, he is a g****mn democrat.


56 posted on 11/20/2005 11:05:52 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: cynicom
"Murtha is a senile old fool that was used by Pelosi and others. His actions were taken as a CONGRESSMAN, not a Marine.

In that context he is indeed a traitor and proved it by voting against his own idea."

Never blame on malice what you can explain with stupidity.

57 posted on 11/20/2005 11:06:38 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: armydawg1

Thrown what out the window. Since when was it determined that all those with military service have to fall in line with what the current administration deems appropriate? I don't agree with everything W is doing. Does that make me a non-patriot?


58 posted on 11/20/2005 11:06:46 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Pox
He is both a coward and a traitor. Period

Is that different than being a democrat?

59 posted on 11/20/2005 11:07:00 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: JennysCool
 the most egregious example of treason and sedition in American history.

Please.
Tell me you're kidding.

60 posted on 11/20/2005 11:08:01 AM PST by timpad (The Wizard Tim - Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade, Finder of Obscurata)
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