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Images complicate clemency clash [Tookie Williams]
Contra Costa Times ^ | 11/20/5 | John Simerman

Posted on 11/20/2005 8:43:02 AM PST by SmithL

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Stanley "Tookie" Williams

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1 posted on 11/20/2005 8:43:03 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Tookie be one bad cookie.

Fry him.

2 posted on 11/20/2005 8:44:36 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English press one. Only in America!)
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To: SmithL

All of Hollyweird would love to see Tookie granted clemency.


3 posted on 11/20/2005 8:48:04 AM PST by hershey
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To: SmithL

He murdered four people. He is the weakest link.

Goodbye.


4 posted on 11/20/2005 8:48:59 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: SmithL

A compromise is in order. Mr. Williams should be allowed to take his own life.


5 posted on 11/20/2005 8:51:15 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SmithL
Those efforts have resulted in five nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize and four nominations for the Nobel Prize for literature.

The Nobel Prize ... and the nominees are ...

Q: Has X [name of person] been nominated as a candidate for the Nobel Prize?

A: Information about the nominations, investigations, and opinions concerning the award is kept secret for fifty years.

Q: Can I nominate someone for the Nobel Prize?

A: No, you cannot if you're not invited. Qualifications to nominate candidates vary somewhat among the different Nobel Prizes. To find out who has the right to submit proposals for an award, see information for each prize category:

| Physics | Chemistry | Medicine | Literature | Peace | Economics |

6 posted on 11/20/2005 8:53:54 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: SmithL
Schwarzenegger has paroled life prisoners at a far higher rate than former Gov. Gray Davis, but he also has rejected the only two clemency petitions he's faced.

Some folks must of gotten "pretend" life sentences.

Schwarzenegger must be pretending that no one was really murdered.

7 posted on 11/20/2005 8:54:09 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I guess the only way to make liberals AND conservatives happy is if we allow Tookie to die by euphoric starvation.


8 posted on 11/20/2005 8:54:42 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: SmithL

He has lived 26 years after the murders. That's more than enough. If he has truly repented, he should be prepared to pay the price without complaining.


9 posted on 11/20/2005 8:54:54 AM PST by exDemocratbutnotRepubican
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To: SmithL
As usual, the press is incompetent in reporting an important aspect of the story. Nobel Prize nominations are do-it-yourself deals! You can nominate yourself. Or, you can have any friend of yours put your name in nomination. There IS NO qualification process.

There is, of course, a heavily-biased selection process to award the Nobel Prizes. But there is no barrier whatsoever to the nomination of anyone for any such prize. But you would never know that from the press coverage.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "What If the French Had Pulled a 'Murtha' in 1781?"

10 posted on 11/20/2005 8:55:39 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: FerdieMurphy

No - you don't want him to die quickly/mercifully/etc. Hang him up by his joints in the sun and let him twitch for a few weeks first. Plus, all the salt water he can drink.


11 posted on 11/20/2005 8:57:21 AM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: SmithL

Would we be having this discussion if he were white?

Want to see son LA riots if he gets the juice?

Sorry to be cynical, just being realistic. They've build this murderer into another one of their idols.


12 posted on 11/20/2005 8:58:50 AM PST by digger48
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To: exDemocratbutnotRepubican
Agreed. This animal should have gone to meet his maker twenty eyars ago.

Scott Peterson won't be on death row for more than two decades and the evidence against him (as good as it was) wasn't as powerful as the evidence against this Williams scumbag.
13 posted on 11/20/2005 8:59:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: SmithL

"The last California governor to grant clemency to a death row inmate was Ronald Reagan, in 1967, based on evidence that convicted killer Calvin Thomas had a history of brain damage."

I totally disagree with ANY excuse for murdering someone. If you have brain damage, have been abused as a child, were teased in school, or have eaten only white bread your entire life - it matters not. What matters is: What exactly did you do? And then the next question is: What exactly are the consequences of that act?

Leave the person and all the excuses and human pity emotion out of justice. It has not place in law.


14 posted on 11/20/2005 9:00:15 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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To: FerdieMurphy

His "BOOK" was ghost-written by some mush for brains idiot-stick grandmother type. Imagine, you're writing a book and who would be best to give credit to?

She was on John and Ken the other afternoon. She had claimed that 150,000 potential gang members had been influenced by Tookie's book not to join.

The hosts asked how she knew this. She referred to over a hundred thousand emails. When that number became mushy itself, she got flustered, attacked the hosts who asked to see them and hung up.

These anti-death penalty subversives will stoop to anything to get vicious merciless killer's sentences reduced. If he would have been sentenced to life like these jackasses claim they want killers to be, she'd be working right now to get him released because of "his" good works.

Sympathy for violent killers is all I see here. Why do these jackasses always forget about the victims? If they weren't subversives, they'd have enough sympathy for all sides in this mess.

I call them subversives, because they are doing their damnedest to clog, breakdown and utterly destroy our system of justice.

If human-animals have to commit violent crimes, I've got a great group that they ought to get to know before they enter their careers. I seem to see a lot of volunteers.


15 posted on 11/20/2005 9:00:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 400/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: SmithL

After crimes of Tookies magnitude, it doesn't matter how sweet he has been lately in the joint.

The law calls for punishment for what you did, not reward for being a good convict.


16 posted on 11/20/2005 9:00:33 AM PST by wardaddy (Captain Spaulding .....the perfect dinner guest)
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To: digger48
Would we be having this discussion if he were white?

if it were a white mom who drowned her 5 children one by one while the others waited in horror...the answer is yes

17 posted on 11/20/2005 9:02:54 AM PST by wardaddy (Captain Spaulding .....the perfect dinner guest)
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To: Congressman Billybob
You can nominate yourself.

I would if I could, but the Nobel website has nixed that idea.

... and the nominees are ...

Q: Can I nominate someone for the Nobel Prize?

A: No, you cannot if you're not invited. Qualifications to nominate candidates vary somewhat among the different Nobel Prizes. To find out who has the right to submit proposals for an award, see information for each prize category:

| Physics | Chemistry | Medicine | Literature | Peace | Economics |

There is, of course, a heavily-biased selection process to award the Nobel Prizes.

That's for sure.

18 posted on 11/20/2005 9:06:32 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: SmithL
The liberal vision of a eutopian future where one man totally out guns and out matches thousands of police officers.

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"Be well Tookie".
19 posted on 11/20/2005 9:08:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Screw compromise, he didn't offer any to his victims. Kill him.


20 posted on 11/20/2005 9:09:09 AM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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