To: RobbyS
It is a regional war, and that part of it is over. We got rid of Sadaam, they will have the 2nd election in December.
The Sunnis and Shias will fight each other no matter what, whether there is a democracy or not. Its been happening for centuries. It isn't terrorism, its a religious war. Our soldiers are in the crossfire.
Would you be for a mission which has as its aim making peace between muslim factions? Today, that's what were are trying to do.
This has nothing to do with more muslims coming to America. Except for the fact that, after the inevitable civil war comes, we will probably evacuate many here, like we did with the Iranians.
80 posted on
11/20/2005 12:19:00 PM PST by
notigar
To: notigar
Until the Iraqi government forces are ready to take complete charge, it would be defeatist to leave. Yes, there probably will be violence in Iraq after we leave. There was before we went there.
Why should we facilitate the return of Saddam's sympathizers to control of the nation? That's exactly what we'd be doing if we left now.
81 posted on
11/20/2005 12:26:39 PM PST by
DoughtyOne
(MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
To: notigar
The enmity between the Sunni and Shiites does indeed for back for a long time, back to the successful battle after Mohammad died. BUT that is not confined to Iraq and it is not inseparable from more mundane political matters. Iraq is a highly tribal society. You have kinship groups that are Arab and Sunni, and close relations that are Arab and Shia, and they get along. In general, there is an antipathy between Arabs and Kurds, most of whom are Sunnis, but the Kurds get along with the Shina Arabs than they do with the Sunni Arabs. Saddam's Baathist Party was not just Sunni Arabs , but large members of particular groupings of kinship groups who were mostly Sunnis. There was also a sprinkling of Kurds, Shia, and even Christians, who joined the winning team, which had originally been set up by the British in 1921.
The political divisions in the Middle East are largely the result of the imperial policies of the British and the Russians. That's why the Iraqi and Iranian borders are where they are. However, the enmity between Iraq and Iran goes back centuries and was also caused by the struggle between the Turks and the Persians for control in Mesopotamia (Iraq in Arabic). Modern Iraq began when the British took it away from the Turks.
84 posted on
11/20/2005 12:39:24 PM PST by
RobbyS
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