Posted on 11/20/2005 12:28:19 AM PST by stm
Evangelical Christian pastor Jerry Falwell has a message for Americans when it comes to celebrating Christmas this year: You're either with us, or you're against us.
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You've stated an overlooked fact. A large segment of our society do view the Fourth of July only as "a good time to watch fireworks and party with your friends." and get time off from work with pay because they are either recent legal/illegal immigrants or first generation that have not assimilated and still hold allegiance to their countries of origin.
It doean't matter how Christmas started, or even why it started, what it's supposed to represent is the crux. Yeshua's birth. A savior given to mankind...The Libs and Satan can't stand being held accountable, that's why they want to take Christ out of the "holiday."
I'm with Falwell. What I think is that these commies that are starting this !#$% can shove off. Chistmas is about the BIRTH of Jesus for everyone that believes in God that is a Christian. Also Santa is there for all the little ones and people like me that has a part of me that never grew up. Don't be upset with the Jewish people because they are with us though I know they have a little different idea on things though they believe in god like we do. All the others can shove off like I said because I'm not giving up God, Jesus, Christmas, or Santa. Those commies can have all the holidays they want just leave me alone.
Go for it Pastor Falwell, we are behind you 100%.
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry! This is the one Jerry I love to cheer on. The libs tried to smear him personally on that Teletubbies story that appeared first in the gay newspaper "The Advocate." That smear is a lot like the crap being dumped on Pat Roberston now. Wal-Mart seems more worried about liberal sensitivities, not to mention other retailers, and keeping quiet will only make them think "diversity" and "multiculturalism" means shunning Christmas. After that Wal-Mart flap a few weeks ago I've heard people on the radio in Wal-Mart saying "Merry Christmas" and "Happy New Year."
I can't get all that excited about equating the war on terror with the war on "Christmas". I know Falwell means well, but for cryin' out loud, let's choose our battles and choose our rhetoric accordingly.
[Christmas overall] - [Christian accretions] = [old pagan Yuletide]
If you're a Puritan, how could you make such a booboo? Answer: antipapist fanaticism. Also known as throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I don't always care for Falwell -- he has a pompous streak that becomes more obvious when he's trying to be jolly and affable -- but I think he certainly has a point. The activities of the ACLU with respect to common Christianity-based observances have been, and are, poisonous and loaded with (let's face it) Jewish sectarian zeal.
The ACLU types need to face the facts: with carnivorous passions like Islamofascism abroad and stalking the Western world, it's pretty stupid politics to try to poison the culture that is the stoutest rampart between you and dying violently in a Moslem-instigated pogrom.
Congrats, you nailed it!
That song was a little bizarre but it still got the point across!
True but we haven't gotten to the point yet where people
are complaining about American flags everywhere. Give
'em time :)
"Actually, what the flag stands for is a symbol of terrorism and death and fear and destruction and repression."
--Jenny Traschen, Amherst (MA) town meeting,
Monday, Sept. 10, 2001.
Todays NYT's has a multipage add by Macy's , that doea not mention Xmas. While I never liked the commercialization of the holiday, that goes to far.
If Traschen has said that in a town meeting in my hometown she would have never made it out alive.
As a non-Christian, Christmas is, for me, a secular holiday. Most of my friends and relatives, of course, celebrate it as a religious holiday, and I share in their celebration, since I believe that everyone should believe as they are able and choose to believe.
Since this period is host to at least a couple of holidays, however, the "Happy Holidays" messages of retailers seem appropriate to me, and not a denial of the story of Christmas. We have a substantial population of Jewish citizens in this nation. They also have a holiday at this time. "Happy Holidays" covers that holiday, as well as Christmas and any other holidays that Americans celebrate at this time of year.
It is up to each individual and family to celebrate as they choose. Boycotting businesses won't do much good, since they have customers of all faiths and of no faith at all. They're not just in business to attract Christians.
Just one person's opinion.
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The left would love it if Santa was the only reason for the celebration of Christmas. Then it would be a purely secular celebration.
I'm not sure about that.
Santa can be in all places at one time.
Santa knows every thing you do
No one has ever seen Santa
Santa rewards good and punishes bad.
Sounds a lot like God to me.
Bass Pro Shops and Cabela's both have Christmas catalogs. Guess where I'm doing my shopping this year. It helps that BPS will be opening here on Nov. 29. I love the women's clothes and shoes they sell.
Oh yes, I agree that it's ironic, taking the Christmas out of retailing, instead of the commercialization out of Christmas. But irony or no, the thing is still an attack on Christianity and American tradition.
I don't think Independence Day qualifies as quite an obvious target for the Left, since independence from monarchy is one of their pet themes as well. I think the tack they have taken tends more in the direction of claiming that leftist values are actually true American values. Justice Stevens or Breyer, I forget which, actually has written a book making exactly that case.
Yes, but retailing this time of year, right before Christmas, is actually directed primarily at Christians. Come to think of it, they are in business primarily to attract Christians, even the rest of the year, since Christians are the overwhelming majority in America.
True, Chanukah comes this time of year as well, and includes gift giving, but it is one of the less important Jewish holidays, the "big ones" having taken place in September or October. I think Chanukah enjoys publicity (not importance) out of all proportion to its place in Judaism only because it coincides more or less with Christmas. Suffice it to say that the 3% of the population that is Jewish would not have created a major retailing event with a minor holy day.
I have never minded "Happy Holidays" either as a greeting, but tend to use "Merry Christmas" to Christians and "Happy Chanukah" to Jews.
We don't have to take part in the secular notion of Christmas if we don't want to. Personally, I like all the lights and music. Though I think most secular Christmas music is inane (I prefer medieval and renaissance), I'm not going to go off half-cocked because someone else likes the more secular stuff.
In our home, we never called him 'Santa Claus'; he's always been St. Nicholas, and our kids knew why.
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