House rejects troop pullout; Dems decry vote (Rep. Ford yells repub's making uncalled for attacks)

AP ^ | November 19, 2005 | AP

[goldstategop]

Its a legitimate question - yes or no? But these people cannot be who they are. They dare not vote for an American defeat. So much for the politics of cut and run when the Democrats are forced to take a stand in full view of the American people.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[UpInArms]

Well said!

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

The Democratic constituencey is composed of public sector employees, teachers, welfare and other recipients of tax-transfer payments, journalists, and union bosses. In short, these are people for whom PROSPERITY IS SOMETHING WHICH HAPPENS TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

That undoubtedly is part of it. I have a friend who works for the state, and he's a Democrat too. But knowing that his mother died with a photo of John F. Kennedy on the mantle of her house, I don't think that was the whole story. My own theory is a bit different. I hold that, as my tagline puts it, "The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR."

And that if you care about nothing but PR, you simply mouth what makes a "great story" without regard to any other consideration than how it will look in the newspaper. The innate arrogance, negativity, and superficiality of mass-market journalism does the rest.

Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate

[American Quilter]

Democrats get so cranky when they lose!

[doug from upland]

MOCKING NANCY IN SONG

[Riverman94610]

True.I have always been a strong supporter of the Bush Doctrine but we need to be honest-a significant presence of US troops will be needed in Iraq for MANY years or else the warring factions will go about their bloody business of ongoing civil war.
Islam is not compatable with Western Democracy and never will be.

[RasterMaster]

GO DOUG!

[zbigreddogz]

He's gotta win the Senate race to have any hope for President.

And he's not gonna win the Senate race.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

"Democrats said it was a political move and quickly decided to vote against it in an attempt to drain it of significance."

This explains perfectly why the Dimocrats were so ticked. They never want anything to end, especially what they scream is a problem. They want it to be alive and problematic for as long as possible so they can continually hound Republicans and voters with it until everyone pulls the lever for a Dimocrat just to shut them the hell up.

Sounds like it was a wise choice and an astute strategy politically. Horowitz must be smiling from ear to ear.

[Bassfire]

It was Congressman Sam Johnson, R-Tex, that was winding up the hour long debate when he ran out of time and our side requested 3 more minutes to the Chairman. The Chairman said "without any objections" and some half-wit on the Dem side said "objection". Then the Chairman asked if the objector would stand and state his objection and they didn't have the cahones to stand, and 3 more minutes were added. This was our sides war hero talking and they can't abide giving him the respect he deserves, just as much or more as that Murfa character!

[AmishDude]

The Dems wanted to have it both ways. Now they have to explain to their constituents why they aren't for immediate withdrawl. This was brilliant strategy. The Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[brivette]

("P.S. Are the Democrats some very sick animals, or what??)"

Well sick animals are to be pitied: Demoncrats are beneath contempt.

[sit-rep]

"Our troops have become the enemy. We need to change direction in Iraq," said Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, a Democratic hawk whose call a day earlier for pulling out troops sparked a nasty, personal debate over the war.

The AP wrote this??? < scratches head >

[Zon]

The Democrats threw a tantrum because the vote to pullout the troops renders their talking point much less meaningful. In the future, when a democrat spouts the "pullout our troops from Iraq" talking point the Republican response will likely be, "your voted not to pull out of Iraq, you can't have it both ways."

Reminiscent of Kerry's, "I voted for funding the war before I voted against it". 

Brilliant!

[ThirstyMan]

Brilliant!

Yes, hoisted by their own petard!

Ha ha!!!

[Stultis]

It's always Groundhog Day with the Dims. It's like a never ending cycle. "We want a debate." They claim. But when Republicans (finally) show up for the debate they cry foul (or just cry) and insist that the debate stop. A few weeks (or another lost election) later and they're screaming for a debate again.

[doingwhatican]

This should be the last term for those who voted “yea” on this gutless resolution. They were elected to serve the American people, not al-Qaeda.

Denying additional troops greatly endangers our military already in Iraq. The morale of our troops in the field will also take a big hit.

This is one of those days in American history that will have to be lived down by us all. We didn’t do enough to stop these traitors. It’s now quite clear what “going to hell in a hand basket” means.

Is there anything Nancy can do that President Bush can’t veto?