I CANNOT BELIEVE REP. JEAN SCHMIDT WAS FORCED TO APOLOGIZE FOR QUOTING A MARINE!

[MikeA]

Forgive the vanity, but I just heard that Rep. Jean Schmidt, the newest Republcan congresswoman from Ohio, had to withdraw her remarks in the debate about the bill about withdrawl from Iraq. She was merely quoting a Marine who wrote her and said of Democratic appeaesment "Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job." Why on earth would she be made to apologize for this? She was not directly calling anyone cowards, but these Democrats are most assuredly that for their emerging cut and run policy on Iraq.

It's amazing, Democrats can make the most outrageous comments attacking the president on the floor of the House accusing the president of lying to get America into war and other such slanders, but Schmidt quotes a Marine far better than any of those low lives on the Democratic side and she's made to apologize?? Nancy Piglosi regularly makes the most ugly and vile accusations against the president and never is she called to account for it.

Amazing, even when the Republicans finally go bare knuckles against these Scumbagcrats, still the Republicans act like wussies and back down from saying what should be said. Heck, what Schmidt said is the least that should be said against these Rats. We should be on the floor calling them seditious liars emboldening our enemies and causing our allies in Iraq to doubt our staying power which will only prolong how long it takes to hand over security to the Iraqis.

Why is it wrong to quote a Marine who is dead-on accurate but okay to take to the floor of the House like Murtha did and give a morale boost to our enemies who today celebrated their big moral and political victories in Congress this week by blowing up Shiites in their mosques and setting off car bombs across Bagdhad. Why is it wrong to call them on this and lay the blood spilt today at their feet? Why is decorum more important than standing up to people bluntly and candidly who advocate for things that will greatly damage American security? Why is it wrong to expose them for what they are but Murtha is worshipped as a hero for giving a tremendous energy boost to our enemies while demoralizing our troops and our allies in Iraq? When will anyone ask Murtha what the cost will be when we're forced to go back into Iraq if we retreat now to end the rogue, Al Qaeda regime that will take over there and turn Iraq into another Afghanistan?

We're living in a topsy-turvy country right now where right is considered wrong and wrong considered right. And we have few moral voices to speak up against it. And when they do, they're swatted down even by members of their own party. Our republic is in jeopardy my friends.

[LADY J]

"Since the FBI found Murtha involved in ABSCAM, I wonder why they never indicted him?"

Maybe he ratted someone out and they gave him a pass.

[moose2004]

The big news was her statement, not her retraction. The damage has already been done.

[Republican Wildcat]

Right. She caused the Dems to completely lose their lunch.

We should all send a note to her telling her we stand with her. She hasn't been in Congress very long and seemed taken aback when the point of order was made to strike her remarks.

E-mail Jean Schmidt

[Mo1]

She was merely quoting a Marine who wrote her and said of Democratic appeaesment "Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job." Why on earth would she be made to apologize for this?

It's because many took it as an attack on Murtha's military service .. which it wasn't

But if you really think about it .. the comment is correct ...

Only cowards do cut and run

And Murtha who is a Marine voted AGAINST the resolution to cut and run

Now why Murtha held that presser suggesting we leave immediately ???

You'll have to ask him .. because that vote he made says he doesn't agree with what he proposed

[LADY J]

"Now why Murtha held that presser suggesting we leave immediately ??? You'll have to ask him .. because that vote he made says he doesn't agree with what he proposed"

I believe he's under investigation for some shady business in PA and this is a cover so that he can say that the Republicans are picking on him.

The RATS and press will join the band wagon to make the Republicans look like they go after anyone who is against them - thereby making him look like an innocent victim.

[Buckeye Battle Cry]

She's been in politics for decades. I wouldn't exactly classify her as a neophyte.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

Why is it wrong to quote a Marine

Not sure about Marines, but I quoted an Army Drill Sgt at my mothers dinner table back in 71 and had to apologize real quick. I was bigger, meaner and just home from boot camp but she was in command. ;-)

[Mo1]

The RATS and press will join the band wagon to make the Republicans look like they go after anyone who is against them - thereby making him look like an innocent victim.

Just one problem for the Rats ... Many pubbies on the House Floor last night gave Murtha's great praises for his military service

Curt Weldon even praised his devotion and visits to the soldiers that were wounded

They just disagree with cutting and running

And apparently Murtha agrees with the pubbies because he voted against what he proposed

[LADY J]

"Just one problem for the Rats ... Many pubbies on the House Floor last night gave Murtha's great praises for his military service"

They obviously took him at his word. Most of the letters he read where all about himself and how great he is!

[highlander_UW]

So next time a democrat quotes one of the unwashed masses (which includes most of their constituency...I live in a blue state) then the republicans are allowed to have any quote stricken from the record that they don't like as well.

Sorry Michael Moore...no more lies will be allowed to be quoted from your movies...better hang it up.

[ZULU]

" I'd put Kerry right in that stink-tank with him too."

Ditto

[Prost1]

This is what it is about the for the dems

http://democracyrising.us/content/view/352/165/

$$$$$$ not buying votes.

[REPANDPROUDOFIT]

It was disgusting watching the Dems go ballistic over the Marine's statement. It is unfortunate that his words do not get to live in perpetuity in the Congressional Record. He deserves at least that. But in the end, justice was served. The words may have been stricken but last night and today the news shows have repeatedly shown her statement including the rediculous response of the Dems.

[deport]

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[nitejohnboy]

You're right, Buckeye. I apologize. Look on the bright side though. She had the guts to say what she did. Maybe she'll be stronger now that she's in the House. One can hope. Meanwhile, Clinton and Schumer are "my" Senators and the Rep. is a Dem named Bishop. Troubles? Yikes. Woe is me.

[Jim Noble]

Unparliamentary language always has to be withdrawn, in a custom going back centuries.

In the begining, it was because allowing it to stand could lead to violence in the House.

[hershey]

I believe rules forbid congressmen/women from directing remarks personally to one another, naming them in fact. She did mention Murtha's name and then said it was for all, but that's the mistake she made. She should simply have put the letter or whatever on the record without mentioning Murtha by name or where he was from, etc.. But in the heat of the moment, it's understandable...and she's new. Plus, this way, she generated even more publicity for her remarks.

[nitejohnboy]

I haven't been able to find out but anyone knows how he voted in 1975 to support the South Vietnamese?
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Here's what I found: According to a USAToday profile of Murtha, printed prior to the 2004 election, his time in Vietnam was spent in a Mass. based unit of SAG. He was elected to the House in a very close special election in 1974 and was the first Vietnam vet to serve in the House. Once there, he was a "favorite of the Tip O'Neill and extremely loyal to the Democrat leadership."

http://asp.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/CandidateProfile.aspx?ci=462&oi=H

On Feb 27 1975, he arrived in Vietnam with a bi-partisan House delegation, to determine if the $522 million requested by President Ford to fund the war was "appropriate". This is according to a document called "Vietnam: Cease Fire to Capitulation". A chilling reminder of what can happen when the cowardly politians take over. It can be found here:

http:libraryautomation.com/nymas/Vietnamfulltext3.html.

Given the outcome of the Vietnam War, we can guess what these rats reported .
In light of his connection with Mass. and his ties to O'Neill and what I have seen regarding his "decorations" and this last display of heroism, I'd say he's a SOB and has been one for some time now.

[carton253]

Neither did I...