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IRAQ WAR SHOWDOWN ON HILL -- PULLOUT DEBATE ON CSPAN NOW - LIVE THREAD
drudge ^ | nov. 18, 2005 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2005 12:30:42 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Edited on 11/18/2005 12:41:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

GOP Pulls Fast One... Tells Dems: Pull Troops Now? Okay, then let's vote!!!!! Tonight. 7 p.m. in House... Ultimate showdown...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; beltwaywarzone; calltheirbluff; crazykucinich; cutandrun; defeatocrats; delay; democratmeltdown; devolve; dirtydims; gop; gwot; hypocrats; iraq; iraqwarshowdown; murtha; murtharesolution; nomorecnnsedition; standandeliver; stoptheleft; sunshinepatriot; vietnamsymdrome; votehillaryvote; waronterror
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To: bnelson44

Sorry, but Murtha has no class--he's just an ass. He has a patriotic resume, but a person is only as patriotic as his last act, and his last act is pro-al Qaeda. Benedict Arnold was a great patriotic general until his last act in the Continental Army. If you apply the logic the 'Rats are using today, Arnold is a great American hero.


5,261 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:14 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Dream Ticket: Cheney/Rice '08)
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To: I got the rope

We have accomplished our mission?

Now he wants them home.


5,262 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:14 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not an exit strategy." ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Howlin
This is very, very sad -- and dangerous.

It's scaring the crap outta me! If we pull out now, 9/11 will look like a teddy bear picnic!

5,263 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:15 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Patriotic Bostonian

Kanjorski from Pennsylvania


5,264 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:15 PM PST by kabar
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To: Howlin
This is very, very sad -- and dangerous

Is this guy telling all our enemies we are weak???

5,265 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:19 PM PST by tapatio
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To: You Dirty Rats

He's right that we are running low on supplies.

And he's right we have to fix our stuff.

But that's no reason to pull out of Iraq.

Now he's arguing that we need to abandon our allies because we don't have enough money?


5,266 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:20 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I say let him talk alnight. This is what happens when he's allowed to talk.



An exchange with Margaret Warner on last night's "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," though, suggests that Murtha has simply taken leave of reality:


Warner: But may I ask you, sir, if you believe--[the president] says--for whatever reason, Iraq has become the center of terrorism - that if the U.S. appears to retreat in the face of that, that it will be a blow to the American fight against radical Islamic terrorism? What do you say to that?


Murtha: Well, I say that the fight against Americans began with Abu Ghraib. It began with the invasion of Iraq. That's when terrorism started. It didn't start when there was criticism of this administration. This administration doesn't want to listen to any ideas.


So according to Murtha, "terrorism started" either in March 2003 (with the "invasion of Iraq") or in May 2004 (when the Abu Ghraib miniscandal came to light). One wonders where he was in, say, September 2001. One wonders, too, how a political party can keep a straight face while putting him forward as a spokesman on national security.


5,267 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:26 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: maxter

Don't count on it..


5,268 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:26 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Howlin; doug from upland

Why does Murtha get to go on and on? I agree... this is dangerous. And CNN broke into its programming and is covering ONLY Murtha' speech apparently...


5,269 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:27 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Sprite518

the way they talk about this guy it sounds like john kerry all over again.


5,270 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:30 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: All

We can thank BJ CLinton for the massive cuts in our armed forces.
How long does this double-chinned fathead get to speak?
Talk about torture...they should make inmates at Club Gotmo listen to this!!!


5,271 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:31 PM PST by JerseyDvl (There are risks and costs to action. But far less than the long range risks of comfortable inaction)
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To: Blurblogger

Hey Murtha, here's the strategy--
1. We WIN
2. They LOSE
3. We LEAVE

As "exit strategies" go, MaryJo Kopechne really needed one (if you catch my drift).


5,272 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:32 PM PST by Fudd Fan (God bless President Bush! (Proud member of the Water Bucket Brigade - MOOSEMUSS!)
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To: All

He is terrible. What a pathetic old man. He is right up there with Kennedy.


5,273 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:35 PM PST by Mayflower Sister (DEMOCRAT: THE PARTY OF COWARDS AND TRAITORS)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I don't understand Murtha; at one point he said we needed more troops to get the job done. Then, in the next breath, he talks about our presence that portrays an occupation. What does he think more troops means to the perception of an occupation?


5,274 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:39 PM PST by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: nutmeg

Anyone watching CNN already has their mind made up anyhow. The key is the fodder that will come out of this that can be use in the elections next year.


5,275 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:39 PM PST by whershey
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To: DarthVader
The USMC despises him today. They call him a traitor and a disgrace to the uniform.

Why?

5,276 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:56 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: tirednvirginia

Heck no, he's never gonna shut up so anyone else can speak.


5,277 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:58 PM PST by Gertie
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To: Howlin

Dam Right....


5,278 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:58 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Patriotic Bostonian

Why would an Ohio Senator be in the House chamber. BTW, Voinovich voted against a timetable for withdrawal as did DeWine. Spent some time on the phone with their offices today...


5,279 posted on 11/18/2005 7:20:59 PM PST by carton253 (Never take counsel of your fears.)
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To: Windcatcher
We're sort of on the front lines with Philly here.

LOL ... yep

5,280 posted on 11/18/2005 7:21:03 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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