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To: Mazeman

"This has not been proven"

That's why it's called the THEORY of evolution.

Not the "LAW" of evolution.


50 posted on 11/17/2005 11:20:21 PM PST by flashbunny (LOCKBOX: Where most republicans keep their gonads after they arrive in Washington D.C.)
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To: flashbunny

"That's why it's called the THEORY of evolution.

Not the "LAW" of evolution."

Agreed.

Teach it as a theory, and don't incorporate it as a law, like Webster's seems to, and like so many of our HS graduates believe.


53 posted on 11/17/2005 11:25:05 PM PST by Mazeman
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To: flashbunny; P-Marlowe; Alamo-Girl
not the law of evolution

While I tend to agree with some that there can be a progression from hypothesis to theory to law, most of the evolutionists on these pages with whom I've discussed do not believe that progression is a valid explanation of the relationship between theory and law. They would not agree that a theory becomes a law.

Incidentally, if Einstein stood on Newton's shoulders then Einstein was standing on the shoulders of a thoroughly relious man.

Isaac Newton (1642-1727) In optics, mechanics, and mathematics, Newton was a figure of undisputed genius and innovation. In all his science (including chemistry) he saw mathematics and numbers as central. What is less well known is that he was devoutly religious and saw numbers as involved in understanding from the Bible God's plan for history. He did a lot of work on biblical numerology, and, though aspects of his beliefs were not orthodox, he thought theology very important. In his system of physics, God is essential to the nature and absoluteness of space. In Principia he stated, "The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being."

72 posted on 11/18/2005 5:10:55 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: flashbunny
That's why it's called the THEORY of evolution.

Not the "LAW" of evolution.


This is a common misunderstanding of scientific terminology. Laws are no more "proven" than theories. Theories do not become laws. Laws are generalizations about observations from which future predictions of similar observations can be made. Theories are a formal attempt to explain the cause of observations. The "law" of gravity is a mathematical formula that expresses gravitational force as the gravitational constant of the universe multiplied by the product of the masses of the two attracting objects divided by the square of the distance between their respective centers of graviy. The theory of gravity -- also called relativity theory -- attempts to explain what causes that force to occur. It should be noted that the "law" of gravity is not only "unproven" but actually inadequate in relativistic scales and even across extremely long distances within the same relativistic frame (because the equation assumes instantaneous force when it is really constrained by lightspeed).
131 posted on 11/18/2005 9:25:49 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: flashbunny
""This has not been proven"

That's why it's called the THEORY of evolution.

Not the "LAW" of evolution

Fine but remember, Newton's Laws of motion were corrected by Einstein's Theory of relativity.

203 posted on 11/18/2005 8:41:34 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: flashbunny; Mazeman
That's why it's called the THEORY of evolution. Not the "LAW" of evolution

You seem to be hung up on the word "theory". You forget that much of our technology is based on "theories". From the computer you are using to that MRI that someone you may care about needs to have. My point is that you are misusing the term "theory" to justify attacking evolution.

A theory is an idea based on evidence. Using the scientific method, the theory may be proven wrong or may be strengthened by more evidence. Over time and with more evidence a theory can be quite strong and may be used to explain phenomena or even used in applications.

Intelligent Design on the other hand, has very little evidence except the "ohhh... life is so complex... something must have created it...". If this is true, then may we assume that the creator is also rather complex, so using the same logic someone must have made him, and the same can be said of his maker... and so on, and so on... and so on. Where does it end?

Once again the Bible and religion is being used to shut down real scientific debate. It is Galileo and the Jovian moons all over again. Because the moons of Jupiter revolve around Jupiter and not Earth, was in contradiction to Joshua 10:12. Got news for you, Galileo was right.

210 posted on 11/19/2005 2:40:50 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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