Posted on 11/17/2005 2:15:05 PM PST by indianrightwinger
House Democrats Unanimously Reject Massive Spending Bill in 224-209 Vote Associated Press November 17, 2005 3:38 p.m.
WASHINGTON -- Legislation to fund many of the nation's health, education and social programs went down to a startling defeat in the House Thursday, led by Democrats who said cuts in the bill hurt some of America's neediest people.
The 224-209 vote against the $142.5 billion spending bill disrupted plans by Republican leaders to finish up work on this year's spending bills and cast doubt on whether they would have the votes to pass a major budget-cutting bill also on the day's agenda.
Democrats, unanimous in opposing the legislation, said it included the first cut in education funding in a decade and slashed funds for several health care programs. "It betrays our nation's values and its future," said House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer of Maryland. "It is neither compassionate, conservative nor wise."
Republicans said they may have lost votes because this year's bill, down $1.5 billion from last year, included no special projects or earmarks for lawmakers. "You take those out and you lose the incentive," said Rep. Tom Davis (R., Va.) who voted for the bill.
Twenty-two Republicans voted against the measure, many of them moderates who also are swing votes on the budget-cutting legislation.
Rep. Barney Frank (D., Mass.) said one factor in the bill's defeat was the drop in the president's popularity and his inability to maintain unity among the GOP ranks. He also noted that the Republican Party misses the vote-gathering powers of Rep. Tom DeLay (R., Texas) who has stepped aside as majority leader because of legal problems, replaced by Rep. Roy Blunt (R., Mo.). "Not every blunt instrument is a hammer," Rep. Frank said, referring to Rep. DeLay's nickname of "The Hammer."
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Could the GOP be using "reverse psychology"?
As long as voters send RINOs to Congess the answer is No.
Republicans cannot have a majority when so-called "moderates" stand with Democrats.
Yep sad but true............I blame Bush for of this s**t. All the RINO's know they are in deep **** in their homestates for midterms. They are all moving to the middle(left)
My understanding is they voted against it BECAUSE it cut several billions in spending. Bill defeated by Dems and 24 lib RINOs.
He also noted that the Republican Party misses the vote-gathering powers of Rep. Tom DeLay (R., Texas) who has stepped aside as majority leader because of legal problems, replaced by Rep. Roy Blunt (R., Mo.). "Not every blunt instrument is a hammer," Rep. Frank said, referring to Rep. DeLay's nickname of "The Hammer."
There is a cure to this sort of thing, but it requires leadership by Republican representatives, which, of course, is an oxymoron. Simply bring forth a new budget which is slightly more austere. I think austere federal budget is also an oxymoron.
I am beginning to think there are three political parties in America. The Democrats, Liberal Republicans and Conservative Republicans.
Regards, Ivan
We are just seeing how petty our legislators as a whole have become.
The legislative branch of our government is broken.
It is too bad we can not call a special election and just vote to either put a Red Flag over the Capitol or just shut the Capitol down until elected representatives are prepared to work together in a time of war or just have the civil war within our own borders we appear to be rapidly approaching and get it over and done with.
The truth hurts, but this is the way Washington works. Many reps need the pork in order to get the votes they need to win elections. To blame for this sad state of affairs are the voters, because if the voters consider these incentives important enough to the way they vote, then the representatives will consider these incentives important to holding their jobs.
So when people blame the President for not vetoing spending bills by Congress, we have to wonder how much more we'd prefer to have Democrats with a clear majority. It would be easier for the President to limit spending and veto budgets if he wasn't concerned about trying to build a majority.
| Yeas | Nays | PRES | NV | |
| Republican | 209 | 22 | ||
| Democratic | 201 | 1 | ||
| Independent | 1 | |||
| TOTALS | 209 | 224 | 1 |
| Aderholt Akin Alexander Bachus Baker Barrett (SC) Bartlett (MD) Barton (TX) Bass Beauprez Biggert Bilirakis Bishop (UT) Blackburn Blunt Boehlert Boehner Bonilla Bonner Bono Boozman Boustany Bradley (NH) Brady (TX) Brown (SC) Brown-Waite, Ginny Burgess Burton (IN) Buyer Calvert Camp Cannon Cantor Capito Carter Chabot Chocola Coble Cole (OK) Conaway Crenshaw Cubin Culberson Cunningham Davis (KY) Davis, Jo Ann Davis, Tom Deal (GA) DeLay Dent Diaz-Balart, L. Diaz-Balart, M. Doolittle Drake Dreier Duncan Ehlers English (PA) Everett Feeney Ferguson Flake Foley Forbes Fortenberry Fossella Foxx Franks (AZ) Frelinghuysen Gallegly |
Garrett (NJ) Gilchrest Gillmor Gingrey Gohmert Goode Goodlatte Granger Graves Green (WI) Gutknecht Hall Harris Hart Hastert Hastings (WA) Hayes Hayworth Hefley Hensarling Herger Hobson Hoekstra Hostettler Hulshof Hunter Hyde Inglis (SC) Issa Istook Jenkins Jindal Johnson (IL) Johnson, Sam Jones (NC) Keller Kelly Kennedy (MN) King (IA) King (NY) Kingston Kline Knollenberg Kolbe Kuhl (NY) LaHood Latham LaTourette Lewis (CA) Lewis (KY) Linder LoBiondo Lucas Lungren, Daniel E. Mack Manzullo Marchant McCaul (TX) McCotter McCrery McHenry McHugh McKeon McMorris Mica Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Miller, Gary Musgrave Myrick |
Neugebauer Ney Northup Norwood Nussle Osborne Oxley Pearce Pence Peterson (PA) Petri Pitts Poe Pombo Porter Price (GA) Pryce (OH) Putnam Radanovich Regula Rehberg Reichert Reynolds Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Rohrabacher Ros-Lehtinen Royce Ryan (WI) Ryun (KS) Saxton Schmidt Schwarz (MI) Sensenbrenner Sessions Shadegg Shaw Shays Sherwood Shimkus Shuster Simpson Smith (NJ) Smith (TX) Sodrel Souder Sullivan Sweeney Tancredo Taylor (NC) Terry Thornberry Tiahrt Tiberi Turner Upton Walden (OR) Walsh Wamp Weldon (FL) Weldon (PA) Weller Westmoreland Whitfield Wicker Wilson (SC) Wolf Young (AK) Young (FL) |
| Abercrombie Ackerman Allen Andrews Baca Baird Baldwin Barrow Bean Becerra Berkley Berman Berry Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Blumenauer Boren Boucher Boyd Brady (PA) Brown (OH) Brown, Corrine Butterfield Capps Capuano Cardin Cardoza Carnahan Carson Case Castle Chandler Clay Cleaver Clyburn Conyers Cooper Costa Costello Cramer Crowley Cuellar Cummings Davis (AL) Davis (CA) Davis (FL) Davis (IL) Davis (TN) DeFazio DeGette Delahunt DeLauro Dicks Dingell Doggett Doyle Edwards Emanuel Emerson Engel Eshoo Etheridge Evans Farr Fattah Filner Fitzpatrick (PA) Ford Frank (MA) Gerlach Gibbons Gonzalez Gordon Green, Al Green, Gene |
Grijalva Gutierrez Harman Hastings (FL) Herseth Higgins Hinchey Hinojosa Holden Holt Honda Hooley Hoyer Inslee Israel Jackson (IL) Jackson-Lee (TX) Jefferson Johnson (CT) Johnson, E. B. Jones (OH) Kanjorski Kaptur Kennedy (RI) Kildee Kilpatrick (MI) Kind Kirk Kucinich Langevin Lantos Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Leach Lee Levin Lewis (GA) Lipinski Lofgren, Zoe Lowey Lynch Maloney Markey Marshall Matheson Matsui McCarthy McCollum (MN) McDermott McGovern McIntyre McKinney McNulty Meehan Meek (FL) Meeks (NY) Melancon Menendez Michaud Millender-McDonald Miller (NC) Miller, George Mollohan Moore (KS) Moore (WI) Moran (KS) Moran (VA) Murphy Murtha Nadler Napolitano Neal (MA) Nunes Oberstar Obey |
Olver Ortiz Otter Owens Pallone Pascrell Pastor Paul Payne Pelosi Peterson (MN) Pickering Platts Pomeroy Price (NC) Rahall Ramstad Rangel Renzi Reyes Rogers (AL) Ross Rothman Roybal-Allard Ruppersberger Rush Ryan (OH) Sabo Salazar Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Sanders Schakowsky Schiff Schwartz (PA) Scott (GA) Scott (VA) Serrano Sherman Simmons Skelton Slaughter Smith (WA) Snyder Solis Spratt Stark Stearns Strickland Stupak Tanner Tauscher Taylor (MS) Thomas Thompson (CA) Thompson (MS) Tierney Towns Udall (CO) Udall (NM) Van Hollen Velázquez Visclosky Wasserman Schultz Waters Watson Watt Waxman Weiner Wexler Wilson (NM) Woolsey Wu Wynn |
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Republicans do not act in lockstep like the RATs. That may be good or bad according to different people's views.
IMHO, the big issues in the 2008 election will not contain THE WAR -- it will be over ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and SPENDING. Of course, the topic of taxation will not come up unless a true conservative runs.
What happened to all those people who say it doesn't matter what Bush's poll numbers look like, he's not up for reelection. Well, you get situations like this...
Republicans in the Congress won't feel uneasy about going up against the White House.
The GOP is still the Majority, but these "moderate" Republicans are doing everything they can to change that in 2006.
Republicans do not act in lockstep like the RATs. That may be good or bad according to different people's views.
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Well don't try an explain this to many viewers here. This is how the libs get their way on votes -- UNITY. The libs know how to do it when they want to play their politics -- the Repubs do not.
Dems and Rinos are now on record as being AGAINST lowering government spending. Stick it to 'em.
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