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To: StarFan
If you make gravy from the drippings and you baste the bird your gravy will be too salty to eat if you don't rinse it adequately. We found that out a few years ago.

Also we found that a brined bird cooked faster. We are using a Dacor convection oven.

I use a new five gallon bucket from the hardware store with a leakproof bag liner. I set that bucket in another bucket or two and wrap with a old blanket placed in a old cooler with ice. Place a plate and a weight on top of the bird to sink it.

A popular brine recipe from Alice Waters at Chez Panisse in the Bay Area

The recipe makes enough brine for a large turkey. If brining only one chicken or a pork roast, cut the recipe in half.

2-1/2 gallons cold water
2 cups kosher salt
1 cup sugar
2 bay leaves, torn into pieces
1 bunch fresh thyme,
or 4 tablespoons dried
1 whole head of garlic, peeled
5 whole allspice berries,
crushed 4 juniper berries, crushed

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We will try Carlo's this year...

143 posted on 11/17/2005 6:28:49 PM PST by tubebender (Chris Matthews suffers from "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE"...)
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To: tubebender
Disregard #142???
144 posted on 11/17/2005 6:30:18 PM PST by tubebender (Chris Matthews suffers from "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE"...)
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To: tubebender

Thanks for the neat brine recipe..I've been doing it for years, but never added any herbs or berries..just the water, sugar and salt..though one time I did try the Coca Cola Classic...can you really taste the scent of the juniper/allspice/garlic?


161 posted on 11/18/2005 4:52:40 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: tubebender
Thanks for the simple brining recipe, although I will have to forego juniper berries as I've yet to find them in my area. Any idea what a good substitute might be? Perhaps sliced fruit?

Your recipe is a lot less expensive than the one I was going to try which called for plenty of turkey broth, brown sugar, orange and lemons slices and 48 oz of honey and maple syrup for a 20 lb. turkey.

205 posted on 11/18/2005 7:02:24 AM PST by StarFan
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