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Historian Charged With Denying Holocaust (Austria)
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| 11/17/05
| AP
Posted on 11/17/2005 9:13:50 AM PST by oldleft
VIENNA, Austria - British historian David Irving was arrested last week in southern Austria on a warrant accusing him of denying the Holocaust, the Interior Ministry said Thursday. Irving was arrested Nov. 11 in Styria province, said police Maj. Rudolf Golia, an Interior Ministry spokesman. He was transferred to a prison in Graz.
Irving was detained on a warrant issued in 1989 under Austrian laws that make Holocaust denial a crime, Golia said. The accusation stemmed from speeches Irving delivered that year in Vienna and in the southern town of Leoben.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: austria; davidirving; denier; freespeech; holocaust; irving; jewish; nazi; pc; uk
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Ah, the freedom loving Europeans...
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:13:52 AM PST
by
oldleft
To: oldleft
I denied the Easter Bunny....are there any legal ramifications?
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:16:36 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
To: oldleft
Dang.
That is dangerously close to "thought crime" territory.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:17:56 AM PST
by
Skooz
(If you believe Adolf Hitler was a Christian, you are a blithering idiot.)
To: oldleft
Ah, the freedom loving Europeans... If you were to suddenly start getting mail about a free trip to Austria - I'd turn it down...it may be a sting.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:18:24 AM PST
by
Tennessee_Bob
("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
To: oldleft
Ain't Free Speech a wonderful thing? It's such a pity that the PC crowd have killed it.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:19:40 AM PST
by
expatpat
To: Puppage
Are you saying that denial of the Holocaust and denial of the Easter Bunny are equal? That's disgusting.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:22:43 AM PST
by
Bella_Bru
To: oldleft
I am just wondering, when did it start getting called the Holocaust? It was not during the event. I just had a personal question on when did it gets its name.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:24:34 AM PST
by
edcoil
(Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
To: Bella_Bru; Puppage
Are you saying that denial of the Holocaust and denial of the Easter Bunny are equal? That's disgusting. Oh please, it's so obvious that that's not what was said that you're looking foolish.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:27:39 AM PST
by
MarineBrat
(When it rains, New Orleans makes its own gravy.)
To: oldleft
If you don't like the law, try and change it. Otherwise, observe it.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:27:47 AM PST
by
Mi-kha-el
((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
To: edcoil
Holocaust; a Hebrew word (olah) meaning "burnt offering.
In the Septuagint version (translated Hebrew Bible into Greek during
the reign of Ptolemy II, 3rd century B.C.), the word, olah, is
consistently translated by the Greek word, holokauston, "an offering
consumed by fire."
I'm not sure when it was first used in specific reference to the genocide of WWII.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:29:40 AM PST
by
oldleft
To: oldleft
you send YOUR kids to his history classes. societies are supposed to govern themselves. when they lose the moral clarity to distinguish between free speech and vicious hateful attempts to stir the coals of anti jewism or other such known viruses "do gooders" will intervene. in europe unlike the US the virus of anti jewism has reached epidemic proportions too many times resulting in multiple periods where people forget what humanity is. they are far more sensitive to this phenomenon.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:30:24 AM PST
by
APRPEH
(DPP is A OK)
To: Mi-kha-el
If you don't like the law, try and change it. Otherwise, observe it.
Why? Might not morality compel one to break an unjust law, and with a clear conscience?
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:30:34 AM PST
by
BikerNYC
(Modernman should not have been banned.)
To: MarineBrat
How about some people directly or indirectly affected by the Nazi genocide of Jews may be a little sensitive about the subject.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:30:44 AM PST
by
Mi-kha-el
((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
To: oldleft
that was rhetorical. i detect a similar background source.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:31:45 AM PST
by
APRPEH
(DPP is A OK)
To: oldleft
I'm not sure I'd want to live in a country where you can be arrested for making stupid statements. After all, I'd be risking prosecution.
To: BikerNYC
OK, but then pay the consequences provided by the law. Exactly what happened in this case.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:32:40 AM PST
by
Mi-kha-el
((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
To: APRPEH
By banning all speech which denies the Holocaust you kill open debate. When you kill open debate you fuel the flames of antisemitism. This guy and his ilk can now claim that the government is "covering up" the truth."
Political free speech should be an absolute.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:33:51 AM PST
by
oldleft
To: MarineBrat
It was a question. It seems some people are a little sensitive to the disdain heaped on Holocaust deniers.
To: oldleft
Agreed.
That being said, it is still amazing that anyone has the gall to take these positions and give ammunition to the Jihadists and other anti-semitics.
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:35:59 AM PST
by
Paul Ross
("The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the govt and I'm here to help)
To: Mi-kha-el
OK, but then pay the consequences provided by the law. Exactly what happened in this case.
So, since the legal system worked in Austria in this case, jailing a person for violating an unjust law, we should all just keep our mouths shut about it?
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posted on
11/17/2005 9:36:22 AM PST
by
BikerNYC
(Modernman should not have been banned.)
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