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New saints are being made everyday. Meanwhile, advanced bookings for hell are way up.

NOTE: I left out the ghastly, graphic descriptions here. Read full article if you are not squeemish.

1 posted on 11/17/2005 8:39:29 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

We are too comfortable. I have no idea if I would stand or cave into threats, but this is interesting in light of those are put to death for their faith. (Note that the Christians are not blowing up others, but just standing for Christ...)

"Canada's National Shrine Pulls Plug on Location of National Pro-Life Conference Due to Threats"
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05111602.html

I wish the article could have given more information as to the nature and type of threats and why they moved the conference, but as long as good men do nothing, evil will prevail.


2 posted on 11/17/2005 8:45:12 AM PST by OpusatFR (What's so threatening about my faith that you have to kill people for believing it? That it's true?)
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To: Rutles4Ever

North Korea rulers are brave when confronted with the helpless...


3 posted on 11/17/2005 8:45:20 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I find it interesting that no one ever persecutes Muslims, Buddhists, etc. for their beliefs.

This article is just proof that we live in a world that is in spritual darkness.

Jong is just another fascist like Stalin, Hitler, et. al.

Someone needs to frag his a@@, and let God deal with him...Kim's in for a BIG surprise.

Scott


4 posted on 11/17/2005 8:45:41 AM PST by scottdeus12
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To: Rutles4Ever
No reason to believe this type of persecution of Christianity could ever happen here in America right? Uh....

right?
5 posted on 11/17/2005 8:46:55 AM PST by Condor 63
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To: Rutles4Ever

I wonder if Bill Clinton will call these North Koreans "good and decent people" like he did Saddam's torturers this week.

Isn't it interesting that liberals bristled at Bush's labelling of this loathsome regime as part of an "Axis of Evil" and yet we learn more and more everyday about the absolute depravity of this murderous regime. CNN even did a great show on Sunday using smuggled out video showing the horrors of Kim Jung Mentally Ill's regime. So why do liberals deny this regime is the very definition of evil and that strong leadership means you call them as such? But then, liberals probably like the idea of Christians being run over with steam rollers since they're such anti-Christian bigots themselves.


6 posted on 11/17/2005 8:47:05 AM PST by MikeA
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To: Rutles4Ever

Satan is alive and well in North Korea.


7 posted on 11/17/2005 8:48:07 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Rutles4Ever

Good thing Amnesty is keeping up with the panty torture at Abu Ghraib ...


8 posted on 11/17/2005 8:49:10 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Rutles4Ever

How awful.


10 posted on 11/17/2005 8:49:47 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Rutles4Ever

Communism and terrorism are the flip sides of the same coin.
George Bush is the only leader on the planet challenging that absolute evil.


12 posted on 11/17/2005 8:55:05 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: All

LIBS: "We love North Korea!"

13 posted on 11/17/2005 8:57:20 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: Rutles4Ever

ping


15 posted on 11/17/2005 8:58:53 AM PST by ocr1
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To: Rutles4Ever

That is horrible beyond belief. Why don't we just take this guy out?


16 posted on 11/17/2005 9:00:10 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Rutles4Ever

If someone does something like this, knowing they will be put to death for it, how is it different than suicide?


18 posted on 11/17/2005 9:01:12 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

May God bless these poor people--may they be in complete ecstasy now--and when its time, may their killers know total pain and suffering.


20 posted on 11/17/2005 9:02:14 AM PST by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Radicals threaten to burn Christians to death
Warn of consequences if they don't reconvert to Hinduism by Sunday


www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47441

These abuses are not unique to N. Korea – look at what our “friends” in India are up to!
22 posted on 11/17/2005 9:08:06 AM PST by X. OTerica
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To: Rutles4Ever

Bump for Later.


32 posted on 11/17/2005 9:34:52 AM PST by mtbrandon49
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To: Rutles4Ever
According to a report based on an eyewitness account, the five church leaders "were bound hand and foot and made to lie down in front of a steamroller"

I was skeptical of the initial reports of rape and murder at the New Orleans super-dome, and I was flamed here on FR for saying so. So, at the risk of being flamed again, I must say that I am skeptical about this report as well. I'm not saying it didn't happen ... I'm just saying that I'm skeptical. Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't.

37 posted on 11/17/2005 9:39:34 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I think God put this story in the Bible to prepare us for vicious persecutions like those in North Korea.
Second Book Of Machabees

The glorious martyrdom of the seven brethren and their mother.

1 It came to pass also, that seven brethren, together with their mother, were apprehended, and compelled by the king to eat swine's flesh against the law, for which end they were tormented with whips and scourges. 2 But one of them, who was the eldest, said thus: What wouldst thou ask, or learn of us? we are ready to die rather than to transgress the laws of God, received from our fathers. 3 Then the king being angry commanded fryingpans, and brazen caldrons to be made hot: which forthwith being heated, 4 He commanded to cut out the tongue of him that had spoken first: and the skin of his head being drawn off, to chop off also the extremities of his hands and feet, the rest of his brethren, and his mother, looking on. 5 And when he was now maimed in all parts, he commanded him, being yet alive, to be brought to the Are, and to be fried in the fryingpan: and while he was suffering therein long torments, the rest, together with the mother, exhorted one another to die manfully,

6 Saying: The Lord God will look upon the truth, and will take pleasure in us, as Moses declared in the profession of the canticle: And In his servants he will take pleasure. 7 So when the first was dead after this manner, they brought the next to make him a, mocking stock: and when they had pulled off the skin of his head with the hair, they asked him if he would eat, before he were punished throughout the whole body in every limb. 8 But he answered in his own language, and said: I will not do it. Wherefore Ire also in the next place, received the torments of the first: 9 And when he was at the last gasp, he said thus: Thou indeed, O most wicked man, destroyest us out of this present life: but the King of the world will raise us up, who die for his laws, in the resurrection of eternal life. 10 After him the third was made a mocking stock, and when he was required, he quickly put forth his tongue, and courageously stretched out his hands:

11 And said with confidence: These have from heaven, but for the laws of God I now despise them: because I hope to receive them again from him. 12 So that the king, and they that were with him, wondered at the young man's courage, because he esteemed the torments as nothing. 13 And after he was thus dead, they tormented the fourth in the like manner. 14 And when he was now ready to die, he spoke thus: It is better, being put to death by men, to look for hope from God, to be raised up again by him: for, as to thee thou shalt have no resurrection unto life. 15 And when they had brought the fifth, they tormented him. But he looking upon the king,

16 Said: Whereas thou hast power among men, though thou art corruptible, thou dost what thou wilt: but think not that our nation is forsaken by God. 17 But stay patiently a while, and thou shalt see his great power, in what manner he will torment thee and thy seed. 18 After him they brought the sixth, and he being ready to die, spoke thus: Be not deceived without cause: for we suffer these things for ourselves, having sinned against our God, and things worthy of admiration are done to us: 19 But do not think that thou shalt escape unpunished, for that thou attempted to fight against God. 20 Now the mother was to be admired above measure, and worthy to be remembered by good men, who beheld seven sons slain in the space of one day, and bore it with a good courage, for the hope that she had in God:

21 And she bravely exhorted every one of them in her own language, being filled with wisdom: and joining a man's heart to a woman's thought, 22 She said to them: I know not how you were formed in my womb: for I neither gave you breath, nor soul, nor life, neither did I frame the limbs of every one of you. 23 But the Creator of the world, that formed the nativity of man, and that found out the origin of all, he will restore to you again in his mercy, both breath and life, as now you despise yourselves for the sake of his laws. 24 Now Antiochus, thinking himself despised, and withal despising the voice of the upbraider, when the youngest was yet alive, did not only exhort him by words, but also assured him with an oath, that he would make him a rich and a happy man, and, if he would turn from the laws of his fathers, would take him for a friend, and furnish him with things necessary. 25 But when the young man was not moved with these things, the king called the mother, and counselled her to deal with the young man to save his life.

26 And when he had exhorted her with many words, she promised that she would counsel her son. 27 So bending herself towards him, mocking the cruel tyrant, she said in her own language: My son, have pity upon me, that bore thee nine months my womb, and save thee suck years, and nourished thee, and brought thee up unto this age. 28 I beseech thee, my son, look upon heaven and earth, and all that is in them: and consider that God made them out of nothing, and mankind also: 29 So thou shalt not fear this tormentor, but being made a worthy partner with thy brethren, receive death, that in that mercy I may receive thee again with thy brethren. 30 While she was yet speaking these words, the young man said: For whom do you stay? I will not obey the commandment of the king, but the commandment of the law, which was given us by Moses.

31 But thou that hast been the author of all mischief against the Hebrews, shalt not escape the hand of God. 32 For we suffer thus for our sins. 33 And though the Lord our God is angry with us a little while for our chastisement and correction: yet he will be reconciled again to his servants. 34 But thou, O wicked and of all men most flagitious, be not lifted up without cause with vain hopes, whilst thou art raging against his servants. 35 For thou hast not yet escaped the judgment of the almighty God, who beholdeth all things.

36 For my brethren, having now undergone a short pain, are under the covenant of eternal life: but thou by the judgment of God shalt receive just punishment for thy pride. 37 But I, like my brethren, offer up my life and my body for the laws of our fathers: calling upon God to be speedily merciful to our nation, and that thou by torments and stripes mayst confess that he alone is God. 38 But in me and in my brethren the wrath of the Almighty, which hath justly been brought upon all our nation, shall cease. 39 Then the king being incensed with anger, raged against him more cruelly than all the rest, taking it grievously that he was mocked. 40 So this man also died undefiled, wholly trusting in the Lord.

41 And last of all after the sons the mother also was consumed. 42 But now there is enough said of the sacrifices, and of the excessive cruelties.


54 posted on 11/17/2005 11:16:11 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Rutles4Ever
"yea the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service". John 16:2
69 posted on 11/17/2005 11:49:30 AM PST by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
"New saints are being made everyday. Meanwhile, advanced bookings for hell are way up. "

But it's not big news...Amnesty International level stuff...after all, it's only Christians.

81 posted on 11/17/2005 1:22:50 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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