Posted on 11/17/2005 5:50:40 AM PST by Esther Ruth
Clinton: Americans 'reluctant to get to heaven' Says living wills 'will help to deal with the health-care crisis'
Posted: November 17, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joe Kovacs © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
Bill Clinton called 'Most Influential Man in the World' in current Esquire
In making a point about the importance of having a living will, ex-President Bill Clinton remarked that religious Americans are apparently hypocrites for having a fear of death.
"It's interesting to me that we always proclaim especially certain numbers of us that we're the most religious big country in the world," said Clinton. "It may be true, but we also seem to be the most reluctant to get to heaven."
The remark came at a speech this month before an audience of 5,000 at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, and was greeted by laughter and applause.
"Look, I only halfway mean that in the sense that I think that everyone has a moral obligation to live as long and as well as he or she can," Clinton continued. "But I do think the living will will help to deal with the health-care crisis."
The impeached president mentioned the case of Terri Schiavo, the brain-injured Florida woman who was starved to death by court order after a long legal battle between her parents and her husband, Michael.
"We spend far more money on the last two months of life than any other country," Clinton noted. "And I think the only answer to that and maybe the good thing that came out of the terrible agony of the Schiavo family that we were all treated to for weeks is that amazing numbers of Americans including Hillary and me ... did living wills. We'd been wanting to do it a long time. We just kept puttin' it off and puttin' it off, and I saw that [tragedy] unfold and I said 'You know, I don't want to see Chelsea on television like that. Let's do the living will.'"
Clinton, who has just been named the "Most Influential Man in the World" by Esquire magazine, reiterated a common theme of his that the U.S. will not always be the leader of the world.
"My view is that we won't be the supreme political, military and economic power in the world forever. We will always be a great nation if we do the right things. But as soon as China and India are as rich as we are then whether we've got the only military superpower is their decision and not ours. ...
"We should be trying to build a world at this unique moment in history we would like to live in when we're not the only big dog on the block."
In the Esquire piece, magazine editor David Granger says Clinton is now poised to become "something like a president of the world or at least a president of the world's non-governmental organizations."
Audio of Bill Clinton's speech at the University of Minnesota is available here. (Total length: 1 hour, 14 min.)
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No, no one ever worse than her. She is the absolute worst.
?
That's like saying you'll find a lost object in the last place you look.
We were put here on Earth to see how we would conduct our lives.
If we believed in God 100%, we wouldnt conduct ourselves as MAN.
We need to know we are vulnerable.
We NEED to be unsure if we will exist after death.
Perhaps, in his wisdom, that is part of Gods plan.
For surely, if he wanted, he could make us all believe by showing himself.
God Himself gave us the will to live, and The Fear Of Death.
This gives those who want to give up a barrier to ending their lives.
And this gives those who truly believe life goes, and are arrogant enough to KNOW they are going to Heaven, a barrier against them trying to hasten their demise.
For it is our obligation to live the life He gave us.
As a child who does the right thing even when the parents arent watching, God wants to see how we conduct ourselves, and what choices each Human Being he puts on Earth makes.
If we KNEW God existed, and KNEW GOD was watching, well, how could He tell what we are really like?
How could he tell what is really in our Hearts?
As to those who want to end lives as soon as possible:
They have basically threatened the nation:
If you dont legalize euthanasia, we will torture you to death, through two weeks of starvation AND DEHYDRATION.
Through the concerted effort of the major media, and the news industrial complex, constantly emphasizing and giving much more time to biased, one sided misinformation, they have convinced much of America that Terri Schiavo SHOULD have been put to death.
Proof is that I have talked to people that have vehemently insisted and stated as fact that Terri was Brain Dead the 15 years before she was put to death, and cut me off and refuse to listen to the real medical and biological facts, even when I offer to show them medical and biology articles.
This shows you the power of the media, and what we are up against.
To show how far they will go:
Since the supporters and Family of Terri Schiavo said the struggle goes on, I continued adding to a report I prepared about Terri when she was still with us.
The report demonstrates how far Lawyers, Doctors, Experts, and Judges will go to deny the facts, deny the obvious, Twist the facts, and go against the established medical and biological knowledge in order to put one insignificant, voiceless woman to death, in order to establish legal precedence, leading to legalized euthanasia.
One purpose of the report being:
Arguments: For upcoming struggle in Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Legislatures for the struggle to prevent Assisted Suicide, Mercy Killing, Euthanasia
AND
To stop the Compassionate Killing, (Genocide), of the Greatest Generation, The Elderly, The Infirm, The Disabled, and The Voiceless.
One description I gave it is:
IN DEPTH: ANALYSIS: HUMAN BIOLOGICAL FACTS IGNORED TO PUT TERRI SCHIAVO TO DEATH/
Forty Thousand Word Critique Of What Was Done To Terri Schiavo:
Basic Knowledge; Basic Reasoning; Ignored Biological Facts; Ignored Medical Knowledge; Absence Of Biological Facts And Medical Knowledge; Absence Of And Destruction Of Evidence, Both Physical And Medical.
I posted excerpts from it on this website.
For those who are interested:
EXCERPTS
There was a lot of evidence missing, a lot of evidence that didn't exist, that should have existed, to prove Terri was vegetative, if she really was.
In fact, there was NO SCIENTIFIC proof used to PROVE STATE that Terri was vegetative.
NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF WAS USED TO PUT TERRI TO DEATH
This will be addressed in the report.
"WHAT HAPPENED TO CRUCIAL DOCUMENTATION THAT COULD HAVE KEPT TERRI ALIVE"
"Could Terri's brain have healed and repaired itself by up to a maximum of 250% ?"
The route taken by a by impulses during a reflex action is called a reflex arc.
Most reflex actions are directed by the spinal cord.
The senses send INFORMATION first to the autonomic nervous system.
Since they keep using the term "Involuntary Automatic Reflex", which is the phrase they use to dismiss Terri's actions, I will use it to keep consistent, and to avoid confusion.
Involuntary Automatic Reflexes are built in protections, developed trough evolution, to protect us BY INITIATING PHYSICAL ACTIONS to protect us against immediate threats.
They work by "The senses sending INFORMATION first to the autonomic nervous system.".
(There will be much said about the implications of this)
WAS TERRI'S BRAIN JUST LIQUID?
(Long section in Report devoted to this)
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU THINK YOU MADE THE DECISION TO DO SOMETHING, YOU THINK IT WAS VOLUNTARY, AND YOU REALLY DIDN'T MAKE THE DECISION, AND IT WASN'T VOLUNTARY
(Actual scientific experiment is cited in Report)
CAN PERMANENT SEVERE BRAIN DAMAGE LEAVE YOU MORE INTELLIGENT, AND MORE CAPABLE, THAN LESS BRAIN DAMAGE
(Explained in Report)
EVEN IN THE HIGHER LEVELS OF THE BRAIN, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN KNOW, WITHOUT KNOWING WE KNOW THEM,
OR NOT BEING AWARE THAT WE KNOW THEM,
OR NOT SUPPOSE TO BE CAPABLE OF KNOWING
(Explained in Report)
WOULD YOU GIVE CONTROL OF YOUR VERY LIFE AND SURVIVAL TO SOMEONE WHO WAS INCAPABLE OF THOUGHT, HAD NO MEMORY, HAD NO CONSCIOUSNESS, HAD NO AWARENESS, AND WAS INCAPABLE OF MAKING DECISIONS?
YOU DO! EVERY DAY.
(Explained in Report)
Why didn't Terri always have a BLANK EXPRESSION?
Many people with all kinds of physical and mental conditions and diseases have blank expressions.
They said Terri was so brain damaged, and tried to use this to show that Terri was vegetative.
Yet, she was capable of making facial expressions. Facial expressions that tens of thousands of people can't make, WHO ARE DEFINITELY NOT VEGETATIVE, many of whom lead active lives, work, and are considered to be intelligent.
We all know some stoke victims have a blank expression on one side of their face due to brain damage.
So, if Terri was severely brain damaged, Had No Cortex, and Her Brain Was Liquid, how was she able to make facial expressions that a stoke victim who has partial brain damage can't make?
We all saw the clips of Terri smiling.
And she didn't always make the same exact smile.
Some were expressions of surprise.
Some were expressions as if she were saying Ohhhh.
Some were expressions of amusement.
Some were expressions of mild amusement.
Some were expressions of interest.
Some were expressions of mild interest.
And some were smiles with an expression of wonderment.
It is well stated in medical, psychological, and developmental texts that smiling and expressions are a form of communication, and social interaction, being unique to man, a highly intellectually advanced species.
"If you didn't think of it as a TRIAL, what would you call testimony given in court, to a judge, with people saying things about you, people saying things about what you allegedly said, whereby the judge decides who he wants to believe, and what evidence he wants to believe, and his decision is that you are to be put to death, without allowing or ordering any REAL evidence, that he knows exists, to be presented in court."
"But Terri could have done more.
All the long you may have assumed that Terri was incapable of testifying in front of congress, but later, I will describe how Terri was capable of actually, NONVERBALLY, testifying.
I will also describe how Terri was capable of actually, VERBALLY, testifying, on her own behalf."
"What would happen if a prisoner were executed for murder, and then it were found that vital information had been destroyed, vital information had been deleted from official records, and that the information provided in some of the documents that was suppose to have been documented by unbiased professionals came from personnel that worked for an institution controlled by someone who was being paid to make sure the person were executed?
This is basically what was perpetrated upon Terri, except Terri hadn't been charged with a capital punishment crime, or even an infraction."
"They say "The Devil Is In The Details".
But in the case of Terri, "The Devil Is In The Absence of Details".
The judge was adamant that Terri be put to death.
The judge, Terri's husband, his lawyers, and the doctors and experts he hired not to care for Terri, but to come up with testimony to kill Terri, used EVERY argument they could think of, come up with, and devise to totally discredit Terri, to totally discredit EVERYTHING she did as being ABSOLUTELY NO SIGN OR INDICATION That Terri had the slightest miniscule amount of thought, consciousness, or awareness.
Imagine the amount of contrivance, "evidence", "expert testimony", they needed to even be able to defy the Congress Of The United States.
They could have paid any amount needed for ANY medical tests that would have PROVED that Terri was Vegetative.
They had well over 10 years to do this.
But, apparently, their was no proof available by any means of Scientific, Biological, and Medical tests.
"I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE LIKE THAT"
IS NOT THE SAME AS SAYING
"IF I WERE LIKE THAT, I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE"
WHY IS ANYONE PROVIDING FUNDS, OR REQUESTING FUNDS, FOR STEM CELL RESEARCH?
All funding should be immediately stopped, since the major courts of the land have declared that it all a hoax, and that there is no such thing as advances in STEM CELL RESEARCH. That there is no hope for Terri.
Therefore, funding it is fraud.
Harvard, and many other scientists say they will be able to grow ANY organ. THE BRAIN IS AN ORGAN. They will be able to grow PARTS or SECTIONS of the brain. And they will be able to grow individual brain cells, to implant in the brain, to regenerate damaged sections.
THE JUDGE WAS TOLD BY DOCTORS THAT TERRI WAS IN A PERMANENT VEGETATIVE STATE, WHICH MEANS NO HOPE OF A CURE.
WHO IS LYING?
If you noticed, the doctors, lawyers, health care professionals, court appointed guardians, and judges WHO WANTED TERRI TO DIE, never said that utterances are not an attempt to communicate, are not a sign of intelligence, are not a process of thought, are not coming from memory, are not a sign or higher cerebral functions.
This is because they simply can't make that claim.
So, since they wanted Terri to die, what they had to do is DISCREDIT them.
That is why you keep hearing the term "Involuntary Automatic Reflex".
(Report will go into depth regarding "utterances, in different sections)"
IF TERRI HAS NO MEMORY, OF JUST HOW TO MAKE EVERY SOUND, THEN WHY DIDN'T HER UTTERANCES HAVE A FOREIGN ACCENT?
DID HER UTTERANCES SOUND FRENCH, JAPANESE, CHINESE, GERMAN, RUSSIAN?
YOUR ACCENT COMES FROM MEMORY OF HOW TO PRONOUNCE ALL THE SOUNDS, BASED ON HOW YOU LEARNED THEM.
THIS MEMORY ISN'T THEN MAGICALLY TRANSPORTED BACK IN TIME TO WHEN YOU WERE BORN, FOR ALL REFLEXES ARE INBORN.
SINCE ALL REFLEXES ARE INBORN:
IF UTTERANCES COULD BE A REFLEX, THEN A BABY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE EVERY SINGLE SOUND THAT TERRI MAKES IN ALL OF HER UTTERANCES.
EVERY BABY AROUND THE WORLD, WITH THE SAME ACCENT.
In fact, if utterances could be a reflex, since they are inborn, every baby around the world should be able to say exactly every FULL "sentence" of utterances that Terri made.
A reflex is always the same: STEREOTYPED.
So, since they said that Terri's utterances were an involuntary automatic reflexes, every single utterance Terri made over the past 15 years should have been exactly the same, and the exact same sounds.
Reflex pathways are well known by biologists.
They can "trace the nerve impulses from the stimulation of an afferent nerve, and follow the transmission, usually through a nerve center, to the efferent motor nerve, and describe the resulting action of a muscle or gland, called the effector."
So why didn't any doctor or expert present to the judge the reflex nerve pathways that produced the utterances that Terri made, since they said in was an "Involuntary Automatic Reflex".
"WHEN A GREAT ACTOR IS PRAISED FOR A DRAMATIC SCENE WHERE HE LOOKS INTO SOMEONE'S EYES, AND NO WORDS ARE SAID, THEY CALL THAT AN ACADEMY AWARD PERFORMANCE, NOT AN INVOLUNTARY AUTOMATIC REFLEX.
LIKE I SAID, TERRI IS BEING JUDGED ON WHAT SHE IS THINKING, WHAT SHE IS FEELING, WHAT IS MOTIVATING EVERYTHING SHE DOES."
AS FAR BACK AS 1940, SCIENTISTS CONQUERED ONE OF THE LAST OBSTACLES TO COMPLETE IV NUTRITION: ADMINISTERING SAFE IV PROTEIN.
Scientific American: Food By Vein, April 1940
THEY SAY TUBE FEEDING IS A HIGHLY DEVELOPED, COMPLICATED PROCEDURE, THAT TOOK A LONG TIME TO DEVELOP, AND THAT'S WHY THEY CLASSIFIED IT AS ARTIFICIAL LIFE SUPPORT. SO WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE TERRI I.V. NUTRITION, WHICH EVEN AN AMBULANCE MEDIC CAN GIVE.
IF TERRI IS ONLY CAPABLE OF AUTOMATIC REFLEXES, AND IS INCAPABLE OF RECOGNITION, (WHICH REQUIRES MEMORY), AND IS INCAPABLE OF DECISION MAKING: THEN SHE WOULD REACT THE SAME WAY TO A PERSON EACH TIME, AND THE SAME WAY NO MATTER WHO THE PERSON WAS.
"The Judge looked at a video of Terri following a balloon with her eyes, then stopping, even though the balloon was still moving back and forth.
The judge dismissed it as showing she was not in a vegetative state, saying she stopped following the balloon with her eyes.
The judge said it was an automatic reflex.
This is a major contradiction.
How can he say she is vegetative because it was an automatic reflex, and also that she is vegetative because she stopped following the balloon with her eyes?"
"IF YOU DON'T CONSIDER THIS WAS A TRIAL
AGAINST TERRI
THEN CONSIDER ALL THE CHARGES AND ALLEGATIONS
PRESENTED AGAINST TERRI"
(Long list is in report)
BECAUSE TERRI RESPONDED TO AN EXTERNAL STIMULUS WITH AN ACTION, WHICH PROVES SHE IS NOT VEGETATIVE, THIS WAS USED TO PROVE TERRI IS VEGETATIVE
"THE ONLY MECHANICAL, OR "ARTIFICIAL ASSISTANCE" PART OF THE FEEDING TUBE DEVICE THE DOCTORS, NOT TERRI, DECIDED TO USE IS TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE DOCTORS AND NURSES. THE FOOD CAN BE POURED INTO THE TUBE DIRECTLY THROUGH A FUNNEL. THE DOCTORS AND NURSES DON'T WANT TO BE BOTHERED DOING THAT."
"Computer science, and speech recognition have come a long way. All speech is made up of a selection from only about 40 different SOUNDS, WHICH ARE DISTINCT, AND AN "analyzable unit".
Has anyone allowed a scientist to do a computerized speech analysis to see the makeup of the sounds of Terri's "utterances".
A computer scientist who is an expert in Computational Linguistics can see if any of these utterances, and SOUNDS, conform to any patterns of the forming of a word."
See: Methods Of Synchronic Linguistic Analysis: Structural Linguistics: Phonology (Link Is In Report)
Heading Of One Page In The Report:
Terri: A Closer Look
AKA:
According To The Judge And "Experts", Terri Has A Body Apparently Based On A Central Nervous System From A Human Life Form That We Haven't Observed Here On Earth.
A court appointed guardian declares Terri to be vegetative because she made utterances when he was in front of her, and also when he was standing behind the bed, out of sight. Did it ever occur to him that she knew he was there, or sensed he was there, or was aware he was there, which is advanced intelligence.
Many of us know that tests show that very young children are unaware of an object still being there, if it is shown to them, then placed under something while they are watching.
See: Cognitive Development: Object Permanence (Link Is In Report)
They couldn't interpret Terri's utterances.
If they could interpret what Terri was trying to say, it just might be:
What are you doing lurking behind my bed, and keeping quiet?
You're giving me the creeps.
Who let you into my room?
You know I can't turn around to look at you, to see what you're up to, or to talk to you.
If you want to be in my room, stop sneaking behind my bed, and come around here in front of me, and talk to me like a decent human being.
One reason used to kill Terri, was the horrible lack of insight by this "guardian".
Apparently, he is only use to is talking to people who have normal physical ability, and are ABLE to turn around.
THE MEDICAL EXAMINER: "GOOD NEWS"
Note: The following is based on the short statements made by the Medical Examiner
as shown on the major networks news reports.
The reason why it is NOT good news, is that it didn't help Terri.
Terri was put to death, so the good news does Terri no good.
Many of you may have THOUGHT that the medical examiner said:
That the exam SHOWED that Terri was VEGETATIVE.
HE DID NOT SAY THAT.
Many of you may have THOUGHT that the medical examiner said:
That no matter how much therapy Terri was given, there would have been NO improvement.
HE DID NOT SAY THAT.
Many of you may have THOUGHT that the medical examiner said:
That Terri's inability to swallow was due to her brain atrophy.
HE DID NOT SAY THAT.
No, I didn't hear him wrong on the brief statements he made on the news.
If you think that HE DID say the above statements, well, this will be a good lesson how we all are deceived everyday in the news, in interviews, etc., etc., by very carefully crafted statements that are "true", but give many of the listeners who are not astute, who don't listen to the real meaning of the words, the OPPOSITE or DIFFERENT meaning of the statements that are actually said.
This will be addressed at a later date.
All the excerpts listed above will be gone into in detail
This is just a small sample of what is in the report.
The data transfer limit of the web site is low.
If you reach the limit before you get through all the pages, let me know, and I'll send you information on how to get to all the pages.
One limited way is to not click on any of the links within the pages, and only click on "NEXT".
You will miss a lot of the medical and biology reports, but you should be able to get through all the main pages.
Thank you very much for your concern, and taking time to look at the report.
The report is at the website: www.geocities.com/terriemergency
Sincerely,
George Betz
Ah, yes, and anything else that comes from his lips is nothing more than a popcorn fart.
Show us the way, traitor-trash!
This guy must be working to see how much of an ass he can make of himself in 4 days. Trying to break his previous records.
"""Look, I only halfway mean that in the sense that I think that everyone has a moral obligation to live as long and as well as he or she can be offed when they become a useless eater," Clinton continued. "BUT I DO THINK THE LIVING WILL WILL HELP TO DEAL WITH THE HEALTH CARE CRISIS BRING DOWN THE RISING COST OF HEALTH CARE!!"
There! It's been fixed.""
Great fix, Ohioan!! I think you de-coded exactly what Clinton meant. The big dog jerk.
""The Democrats want to kill you.
Do you need another reason to vote Republican?""
First the Demos were for killing the unborn now they are actively trying to eliminate the living. Definately the party of death.
Have a pleasant trip...
Oh, and welcome to FR...
"I have a strong feeling that national and world leaders are keeping this guy on the stage because THEY want him there."
I think you're exactly right. It's never made sense why Bush #41 would want to hang out with Clinton and therefore increase his credibility with Republicans. Strange.
"For surely, if he wanted, he could make us all believe by showing himself."
God came to us, as Jesus(our Messiah). Look at what was done to him... Without God as our guide, people will rip others up one side and down the other-out of their own wickedness and jealously.
Welcome to Free Republic, TTFGO!
For the others who I have pinged, did you see this post? I missed it on my first go-round.
Welcome aboard. Thanks for sharing all that research. I pulled up the webpage you linked to, but haven't had time to give it a good going over yet. It appears to be very in depth. You should link to it on your profile page.
DID THAT ARSEHOLE REALLY SAY THE FOLLOWING TO AMERICAN KIDS IN MINNESOTA?
"It's interesting to me that we always proclaim especially certain numbers of us that we're the most religious big country in the world," said Clinton. "It may be true, but we also seem to be the most reluctant to get to heaven."
Does this pastey failed human being have one ounce of respect for our nation? Does he get off on going low...always seeking the lowest common denominator?
Or is he STILL hoping for a Nobel prize that he had his staff lobby for him on his behalf while he was still president? (the klintons really are such a trailer trashy lot, aren't they?)
I am not yet over this traitor who once sat in our highest office (porking a kid on the rug there) telling Arab students in DUBAI that we made a mistake fighting terror in Iraq.
He is a divider...an American hater...and loose cannon....and should be ordered to stay within American soil if he cannot FIND ONE GOOD WORD TO SAY ABOUT OUR NATION, OUR COURAGEOUS TROOPS, OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF and OUR TERRIFIC, FREEDOM LOVING, GENEROUS, HARDWORKING, GOD LOVING NATION!
I cannot say what I would like to say to this weak coward to his face...I would be thrown off FR. But I can think it....and I DO.
It motivates me to get the truth out about hillary like crazy.....my car tells my sentiments....and people AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That the hillary klinton failed health care plan included planned death for those not meeting certain quality of life issues so stated by her illegal group who came to despise her...one saying she should be kept away from the oval office BIG TIME.
It was the most socialistic, primitive, ill thought out, money grubbing piece of work every devised....a plan that would DESTROY our physicians and put hitlery in charge of 1/6 of our economy (she had chosen ROSS PEROT to computerize the mammoth debacle....interesting, no?)
Glad it failed.
Sick to know that that plan also had a death parameter list....as I write this...I care for two elderly people who meet most and in one case, all but ONE of the parameters that would put him or her to death!
I think bill klinton and his wife are two of the filthiest, nastiest, greediest and void of conscience type of people I have EVER come to read or hear about.
Anytime you are falling for the happy hash about the country being conservative and not falling for the democrats, read any comments or speeches by Bill Clinton. This great politician is a scatter brained, troubled individual. David Brinkley brilliantly said on the air that "Bill Clinton never said a damn thing worth listening to."
If anyone bothers to read or think about Clinton's glib run on sentences, they are pointless. He's a master of saying zero.
And Clinton is a deeply troubled deeply immoral opportunist. IF he is intelligent it was totally wasted.
He is a master at saying zero regarding anything of value.....but he is a master when it comes to trashing our nation...he knows his audience...and he will say anything for the standing 'O'...as long as the 200,000 grand is in the bank for his efforts.
This pig will be any color ya want him to be as long as the payment is right.
I can think of a few others that would qualify for the same category. Initials are M.S., G.F., G.G....oh, I could go on and on! :-)
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