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Washington talking to Warsaw about possible U.S. missile base in Poland
CNEWS ^ | November 16, 2005 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 11/17/2005 1:13:40 AM PST by twinself

WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. and Polish officials are discussing building a base in Poland from which U.S. interceptors could shoot down long-range missiles as part of a global defence network, a Pentagon official said Wednesday.

It would be the first American strategic missile defence site outside U.S. territory, and would be designed to defend all of Europe against intercontinental-range missiles - primarily those launched from the Middle East.

No decision has been made to proceed with a missile defence base in Poland and alternative sites in Europe are a possibility. But the Pentagon official said Poland appears to be the most likely host country for the kind of American military installation that would have been unthinkable before Poland joined NATO in 1999.

The official discussed the matter only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

The Pentagon has made no public announcement of its discussions with Polish officials, although it has made known its extensive consultations in recent years with NATO allies on the threat posed by ballistic missiles.

On Monday, Poland's new prime minister, Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz, said he was opening a public debate on whether to host a U.S. missile defence base.

He did not specifically say Washington was interested in installing ground-based interceptors of the sort that the Pentagon has recently installed in Alaska.

"This is an important issue for Poland, related to our security and to our co-operation with an important ally," Marcinkiewicz said.

He leads a new conservative government in Warsaw that took office on Oct. 31. The previous government had expressed concern that missile defence co-operation with Washington could harm relations with Russia, which had opposed Poland's decision to become a member of NATO.

The U.S. military has no permanent bases in Poland or other Central and Eastern European countries formerly aligned with the Soviet Union. The U.S. does have bases in former Soviet republics in Central Asia such as Kyrgyzstan.

U.S. officials have been discussing with new NATO members Romania and Bulgaria the possibility of basing some U.S. troops there as part of a repositioning of U.S. forces around the world.

U.S. officials have been considering a number of possibilities for extending the American missile defence network to include Europe, although most of the focus has been on defences against short-range missiles.

Long-range missiles are considered an emerging threat, in the view of Bush administration officials, because of the proliferation of technologies that would allow countries such as Iran and possibly Syria or Libya to build extended-range missiles. The threat is especially worrisome when coupled with nuclear warheads.

The current U.S. defence system against long-range missiles is limited mainly to an installation at Fort Greely, Alaska, where at least six missile interceptors are in underground silos, linked to a command and control system. It is designed mainly to shoot down missiles fired at U.S. territory from North Korea, with future expansion planned.

The Pentagon official who discussed the Polish option said that if a missile defence base were built there, it probably would be the only one needed to defend Europe against long-range missiles, although radars, other sensors and interceptors designed to combat shorter range missiles also would be needed for a complete defence.

The official estimated that a site in Poland would not be ready to begin operating before 2010. He offered no estimate on how much it might cost or when U.S. officials were likely to make a decision to proceed. Also undetermined is whether the site would be controlled jointly by U.S. and Polish forces or possibly with a NATO role.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: allies; allypoland; mds; militarybases; missiledefence; newnwo; pentagon; poland; russia; usa
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1 posted on 11/17/2005 1:13:41 AM PST by twinself
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To: lizol; Lukasz; Grzegorz 246

ping!


2 posted on 11/17/2005 1:15:17 AM PST by twinself
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To: twinself

Hey Russia, remember the cuban missle crises? Paybacks a mother.


3 posted on 11/17/2005 3:04:02 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

All those years of abusing the Eastern Europeans, trampling on their rights, tanks in the streets, crushing freedom?

Poland rises again!


4 posted on 11/17/2005 4:16:44 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: twinself

I'm not real happy about protecting Europe from anything anymore, though Poland is an exception to that.

Except Alaska, I haven't read about any other anti-missile missile(AMM) bases protecting the USA. Til these are built, or AMMs are put on submarines, we need to protect our country first.

Besides, the muzzies aren't gonna nuke an area they already control - france, germany, etc.


5 posted on 11/17/2005 5:18:54 AM PST by Mister Da (Nuke 'em til they glow!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Ok, we'll aim some nukes at Poland.


6 posted on 11/17/2005 5:49:26 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: Freelance Warrior

You are really stupid if you haven't done it yet.


7 posted on 11/17/2005 6:04:37 AM PST by twinself
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To: twinself

Aiming a nuke takes 40 minutes we have enough time yet.
Anyway why would a Middle East country will send a nuke through Poland? It's not the shortest way.


8 posted on 11/17/2005 6:09:24 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: Freelance Warrior
Anyway why would a Middle East country will send a nuke through Poland? It's not the shortest way.

Perhaps because that exercise is not related with a Middle Eastern country at all.
9 posted on 11/17/2005 6:14:53 AM PST by twinself
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To: Mister Da; armydawg1; Joe Boucher
This system will protect US, not Poland. There probably wouldn't be enough time to shoot down missiles launched from the middle east, which would be going to hit Europe. This is not against Russia either because the whole system will be able (maybe) to shoot down only a few missiles. Russians have thousands.
10 posted on 11/17/2005 6:29:52 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Freelance Warrior
I am generally against this system being deployed in Poland but that Russia wouldn't like It is one of few positive aspects in the whole affair.
11 posted on 11/17/2005 6:35:11 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
In this case a possible Middle East attacker would strike Poland first to hit the facility and would send a nuke to hit the USA secondly.

The time factor make such move look successful. And Poland doesn't benefit from this.

12 posted on 11/17/2005 6:37:34 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: tortoise; zencat; Tailgunner Joe; eyespysomething; toothfairy86; SkiPole18; curiosity; right; ...
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

13 posted on 11/17/2005 6:39:39 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Sorry, have I understand you correctly that the main Poland's goal of this possible move is to get Russia angry?


14 posted on 11/17/2005 6:40:37 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: Grzegorz 246

Twenty bucks says Russia will think any such base is against Russia, and will goose the arms race up again. Not that I'm against building the base, just an observation. It will definitely be received badly by the cold war dinosaurs.


15 posted on 11/17/2005 6:49:03 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Grzegorz 246

I predict that the moment this base is confirmed, the Russians will demonstrate how easily they could pick off our carriers and stealth aircraft with their new toys. This could even revive the ultranationalist parades of military hardware through Red Square. I'm not sure such a base is worth all that.


16 posted on 11/17/2005 6:56:08 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Sender

See the problem is that the Cold War never really ended, and was just "frozen" for a short while during the nineties. US vs rest of the world rivalry (including Russia) will definitely deepen in the years to come. Russia makes no mistake which side Poland will be on in that race. Especially after Ukrainian elections, when Kremlin propagandists nominated Poland as their official "training bag".


17 posted on 11/17/2005 7:02:35 AM PST by twinself
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To: Freelance Warrior

I suppose you already have, some time ago.


18 posted on 11/17/2005 7:13:46 AM PST by lizol
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To: lizol

I can only speculate about this and you too.


19 posted on 11/17/2005 7:21:30 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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To: twinself

I'm becomimg more and more assured that nuclear weapons are absolutely necessary for Russia since the possible US attack is still an option.


20 posted on 11/17/2005 7:24:12 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
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