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NASCAR Season Finale - Ford 400 at Homestead, on NBC Sunday 11/20, at 3:30pm ET
NASCAR / Jayski ^

Posted on 11/16/2005 6:05:21 PM PST by glock rocks




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The Ford 400

Sunday 3:30 pm Eastern

Pre-race at 3:00

from Homestead-Miami Speedway, Homestead, FL






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To: glock rocks
Morning grok!!

Thanks for running the last thread :o( of this season. Oh boy I'm gonna miss the races!

Oh wait it's gork, nork, tork & york isn't it?

41 posted on 11/17/2005 5:20:09 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: steveegg; All

Schrader says he has a BIG NEW sponsor coming to Nascar for his new 21 ride. Should be announced tomorrow.

And.........TV TV TV TV


65 Cams at Homestead: The "Chase for the Nextel Cup" races to the finish line at the Ford 400, Sunday, 3:00pm/et from Homestead-Miami Speedway, live in high definition on NBC. Coverage begins with a special one-hour "Bank of America Countdown to Green" pre-race show, followed by green flag racing at 4:00pm/et. NBC's production arsenal for the Ford 400 NASCAR Nextel Cup finale will include 65 cameras, including eight cars with in-car cameras and three isolation cameras focused on the top three drivers in the championship "Chase." The "Tony-Cam," "Jimmie-Cam" and "Carl-Cam" will be isolated on points leader Tony Stewart, Jimmie Johnson (-52) and Carl Edwards (-87) respectively. NBC also will have a "Crew-Cam" mounted on the helmet of Stewart's rear tire carrier, Jody Forston, that will show the speed and pressure from his point of view during Stewart's pit stops.(NBC PR)(11-17-2005)

Thanks to Jayski via JR for the info.


42 posted on 11/17/2005 5:44:13 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: All

BTW.....DEI/Jr fans the Busch race has the following entries.

8 Martin Truex Jr. (C2)
11 Paul Menard (DEI)
81 Ryan Moore (DEI)
88 Mark McFarland (Jr Motorsports) Their FIRST run!!!


43 posted on 11/17/2005 5:48:31 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: glock rocks

25? That's a heat wave! I've got 15 here in the land of frozen cheeze and beer.


44 posted on 11/17/2005 6:16:56 AM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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To: glock rocks; NormsRevenge; NYTexan; steveegg

Ok, here it is.......it's much longer than this but more than one needs to know. LOL

The Chase Scenarios: The Championship Scenarios at Homestead:
If Tony Stewart wins the race he wins the title.
1. If Stewart finishes 9th or better, he wins title
2. If Stewart leads a lap and finishes 10th or better, he wins title-6,554
If Jimmie Johnson wins the race (180 points + 5 points for leading a lap = 185 pts)-6,548 1. If Stewart finishes 12th or worse, Johnson wins title
2. If Stewart does not lead a lap and finishes 11th or worse, Johnson wins title
If J. Johnson wins the race and leads the most laps (180 +10 bonus pts = 190)-6,553
1. If Stewart finishes 11th or worse, Johnson wins title
2. If Stewart does not lead a lap and finishes 10th or worse, Johnson wins title
If Carl Edwards wins the race (180 points + 5 points for leading a lap = 185 pts)-6,513
1. If Stewart finishes 25th or worse AND
If Jimmie Johnson finishes 9th or worse, Edwards wins title
2. If Stewart does not lead a lap and finishes 22nd or worse AND
If Jimmie Johnson does not lead a lap and finishes 6th or worse, Edwards wins title
If C. Edwards wins the race and leads the most laps (180 + 10 bonus pts = 190)-6,518
1. If Stewart finishes 22nd or worse AND
If Johnson 6th or worse, Edwards wins title
2. If Stewart does not lead a lap and finishes 21st or worse AND
If Johnson does not lead a lap and finishes 5th or worse, Edwards wins title

I think it's from Jayski, but not sure.


45 posted on 11/17/2005 6:56:48 AM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: glock rocks
I didn't realize that Homestead was so far south. Can you see Antarctica from there?
46 posted on 11/17/2005 8:13:59 AM PST by tubebender (Chris Matthews suffers from "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE"...)
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To: WestCoastGal

Looks like a Jayski piece.


47 posted on 11/17/2005 8:26:08 AM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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To: glock rocks

Season Finale...man, the NASCAR withdrawls are going to hurt and Tar Heel basketball isn't going to be much of a cure this year.


48 posted on 11/17/2005 11:53:27 AM PST by GBA (I believe Congressman Weldon! MSM do your job.)
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Ford 400 (Nextel Cup) entry list -

Car Driver Hometown Make >Sponsor Owner
0 Mike Bliss Milwaukie, OR Chevrolet NetZero Best Buy Gene Haas
01 Joe Nemechek Lakeland, FL Chevrolet U.S. Army Nelson Bowers
2 Rusty Wallace St. Louis, MO Dodge Miller Lite Roger Penske
4 Todd Bodine** Chemung, NY Chevrolet Lucas Oil Products Larry McClure
5 Kyle Busch* Las Vegas, NV Chevrolet Kellogg's Rick Hendrick
6 Mark Martin Batesville, AR Ford Viagra Jack Roush
7 Robby Gordon** Orange, CA Chevrolet Harrah's James Smith
07 Dave Blaney Hartford, OH Chevrolet Jack Daniel's Richard Childress
8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Kannapolis, NC Chevrolet Budweiser Teresa Earnhardt
9 Kasey Kahne Enumclaw, WA Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW Ray Evernham
09 Reed Sorenson** Peachtree City, GA Dodge Miccosukee Gaming & Resorts James Finch
10 Scott Riggs Bahama, NC Chevrolet Checkers/Rally's/Florida State Univ. James Rocco
11 Denny Hamlin Chesterfield, VA Chevrolet FedEx Express J D Gibbs
12 Ryan Newman South Bend, IN Dodge ALLTEL Roger Penske
15 Michael Waltrip Owensboro, KY Chevrolet NAPA Auto Parts Teresa Earnhardt
16 Greg Biffle Vancouver, WA Ford Post-it/National Guard Geoff Smith
17 Matt Kenseth Cambridge, WI Ford DeWalt Power Tools Mark Martin
18 Bobby Labonte Corpus Christi, TX Chevrolet Interstate Batteries Joe Gibbs
19 Jeremy Mayfield Owensboro, KY Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW Ray Evernham
20 Tony Stewart Rushville, IN Chevrolet The Home Depot Joe Gibbs
21 Ricky Rudd Chesapeake, VA Ford Motorcraft Genuine Parts Glen Wood
22 Scott Wimmer Wausau, WI Dodge Caterpillar Bill Davis
24 Jeff Gordon Pittsboro, IN Chevrolet DuPont Rick Hendrick
25 Brian Vickers Thomasville, NC Chevrolet GMAC/ditech.com Mary Hendrick
29 Kevin Harvick Bakersfield, CA Chevrolet GM Goodwrench Richard Childress
31 Jeff Burton South Boston, VA Chevrolet Cingular Wireless Richard Childress
32 Bobby Hamilton Jr.** Nashville, TN Chevrolet Tide Calvin Wells, III
37 Mike Skinner** Susanville, CA Dodge Patron Tequila/BoSPOKER.net John Carter
38 Elliott Sadler Emporia, VA Ford M&M's Robert Yates
39 David Stremme** South Bend, IN Dodge Commit Nicotene Lozenges Floyd Ganassi
40 Sterling Marlin Columbia, TN Dodge Coors Light Felix Sabates
41 Casey Mears Bakersfield, CA Dodge Target Chip Ganassi
42 Jamie McMurray Joplin, MO Dodge Texaco/Havoline Floyd Ganassi
43 Jeff Green Owensboro, KY Dodge Chex Party Mix Richard L Petty
45 Kyle Petty Randleman, NC Dodge Georgia-Pacific/Brawny/Univ.Fla. Kyle Petty
48 Jimmie Johnson El Cajon, CA Chevrolet Lowe's Jeff Gordon
49 Ken Schrader Fenton, MO Dodge Red Baron Frozen Pizza Elizabeth Morgenthau
50 Jimmy Spencer** Berwick, PA Dodge Allied Steel Buildings Don Arnold
66 Kevin Lepage** Shelburne, VT Ford Cabela's Jeff Stec
77 Travis Kvapil* Janesville, WI Dodge Kodak/Jasper Engines Douglas Bawel
80 Carl Long** Roxboro, NC Dodge carloan.com Stanton Hover
88 Dale Jarrett Hickory, NC Ford UPS Robert Yates
89 Morgan Shepherd** Conover, NC Dodge Victory in Jesus/Dutch Quality Stone Cindy Shepherd
97 Kenny Wallace St. Louis, MO Ford IRWIN Industrial Tools Georgetta Roush
99 Carl Edwards Columbia, MO Ford Office Depot Jack Roush
151 Mike Garvey*/** Lakeville, MN Chevrolet Marathon American Spirit Motor Oil Joe Auer
192 Chad Chaffin** Smyrna, TN Chevrolet Fox Collision Centers Bob Jenkins
200 Derrike Cope** Spanaway, WA Dodge Royal Administration Raynard McGlynn
* Denotes Rookie
** Denotes driver/team not in the top 35 in owners' points, must qualify on time (fastest 8 of 13; 8th-fastest will start 43rd). All these teams as well as anybody else will have to either time their way in, find a past champion who ran this year, or transfer the owners' points from another team in the top 35 for the first 5 races next year.
49 posted on 11/17/2005 1:42:21 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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Ford 300 (Busch Series) entry list -

Car Driver Hometown Make >Sponsor Owner
0 Kertus Davis*/** Gaffney, SC Chevrolet RaceGirl Johnny Davis
1 Johnny Sauter Necedah, WI Dodge Miccosukee Gaming & Resorts James Finch
2 Clint Bowyer Emporia, KS Chevrolet ACDelco Richard Childress
4 Kevin Hamlin Snohomish, WA Dodge GEICO Fred Biagi
5 Adrian Fernandez Mexico City, Mexico Chevrolet Lowe's/Spectrum Spectracide Rick Hendrick
6 Kasey Kahne Enumclaw, WA Dodge Lawry's Ray Evernham
7 Jeff Fuller** Auburn, MA Chevrolet Big Boar Customs Andrea Nemechek
8 Martin Truex Jr. Mayetta, NJ Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops/Tracker Teresa Earnhardt
9 Mark Martin** Batesville, AR Ford Pennzoil Platinum Jack Roush
10 John Andretti** Indianapolis, IN Ford St. Jude Children's Research Hospital Gregory Pollex
11 Paul Menard Eau Claire, WI Chevrolet Menards/PEAK Teresa Earnhardt
12 Joel Kauffman LaGrange, IN Dodge Supercuts Mimi Fitz
14 David Stremme South Bend, IN Dodge Navy "Accelerate Your Life" Terry Bradshaw
15 Brent Sherman*/** Chicago, IL Ford Hickory Farms Keith Barnwell
17 Matt Kenseth** Cambridge, WI Ford Waste Management Jack Roush
18 J.J. Yeley Phoenix, AZ Chevrolet Vigoro Winterizer/Home Depot Joe Gibbs
20 Denny Hamlin* Chesterfield, VA Chevrolet Rockwell Automation Joe Gibbs
21 Kevin Harvick Bakersfield, CA Chevrolet Reese's Richard Childress
22 Kenny Wallace St. Louis, MO Ford AutoZone Gregory Pollex
23 Chris Wimmer** Wausau, WI Chevrolet BMAR Keith Coleman
25 Ashton Lewis Chesapeake, VA Ford U.S. Marines Ed Rensi
27 David Green Owensboro, KY Ford Kleenex Tammy Brewer
31 Dave Blaney** Hartford, OH Chevrolet Whelen Engineering Linda Marsh
32 Jason Leffler Long Beach, CA Chevrolet VoxBox/Infinity Mobile Todd Braun
33 Burney Lamar W. Sacramento, CA Chevrolet Yard-Man DeLana Harvick
34 Todd Bodine Chemung, NY Chevrolet Dollar General Frank Cicci
35 Jason Keller Greenville, SC Ford McDonald's Big Mac Sam Rensi
36 Tim Sauter Necedah, WI Chevrolet DCT Motorsports John McGill
38 Anthony Foyt Hockley, TX Dodge Great Clips Brad Akins
40 Carlos Contreras Mexico City, Mexico Dodge PartyPoker.net Armando Fitz
41 Reed Sorenson* Peachtree City, GA Dodge Discount Tire Chip Ganassi
44 Justin Labonte Thomasville, NC Chevrolet U.S. Coast Guard Terry Labonte
47 Jon Wood* Stuart, VA Ford Clorox/Wisk Jodi Geschickter
49 Steve Grissom** Gadsden, AL Ford Advil Liqui-Gels Jay Robinson
58 Clay Rogers Denver, NC Dodge Who's Your Daddy? Scott Glynn
59 Stacy Compton Grit, VA Ford Kingsford/Bush's Beans Tad Geschickter
60 Carl Edwards* Columbia, MO Ford Charter Communications Jack Roush
64 Mike Wallace St. Louis, MO Dodge Miller High Life Rusty Wallace
66 Greg Biffle Vancouver, WA Ford Royal Office Products Clarence Brewer
72 Kevin Lepage** Shelburne, VT Chevrolet Gunbroker.com Pat MacDonald
81 Ryan Moore** Scarborough, ME Chevrolet Kraft Foods Dale Earnhardt, Jr
87 Joe Nemechek** Lakeland, FL Chevrolet Cellular One Andrea Nemechek
88 Mark McFarland** Winchester, VA Chevrolet Navy "Accelerate Your Life" Dale Earnhardt, Jr
90 Elliott Sadler** Emporia, VA Ford CITI Financial Robert Yates
99 Michael Waltrip** Owensboro, KY Chevrolet Aaron's Elizabeth Waltrip
109 Jamie McMurray** Joplin, MO Dodge Miccosukee Gaming & Resorts James Finch
139 Ryan Newman** South Bend, IN Dodge ALLTEL Don Miller
143 Aaron Fike** Galesburg, IL Ford Cottonelle Mike Curb
157 Brian Vickers** Thomasville, NC Chevrolet Ore-Ida Rick Hendrick
167 Johnny Benson** Grand Rapids, MI Dodge Panasonic Plasma HDTV Michael A Smith
173 Jorge Goeters** San Luis Potosi, Mexico Chevrolet Red Cactus Salsa/U.S. Mortgage Daniel Griffin
178 Jerry Robertson** Arvada, CO Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing Barney Visser
186 Marc Mitchell** Tallahassee, FL Chevrolet Auburn University Kenneth Appling
198 David Reutimann** Zephyrhills, FL Chevrolet Aaron's Buffy Waltrip
268 Travis Kittleson** Madison, WI Chevrolet Bob Steele Chevrolet Robert Kittleson
270 Chad Blount** Walkerton, IN Chevrolet Foretravel Motorhomes Mary Louise Miller
* Denotes Rookie
** Denotes driver/team not in the top 30 in owners' points among teams with 34 attempts (which rules out the #90, 30th in owners points but with only 22 attempts), must qualify on time (fastest 12 of 26 plus either Johnny Benson-1995 Busch champ, Steve Grissom-1993 Busch champ, Joe Nemechek-1992 Busch champ, or 13th-fastest of 26 - note; Brian Vickers did not run in 2004, so his 2003 Busch championship means nothing until next year). The #143 can make it into the top 30 and thus guarantee a start in the first 5 races next year (provided they enter them all), while the #58 can fall out; nobody else can move in or out of the top 30 and a guaranteed start in the first 5 races next year.
50 posted on 11/17/2005 1:55:11 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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Ford 200 (Craftsman Truck Series) entry list -

Car Driver Hometown Make >Sponsor Owner
1 Ted Musgrave Franklin, WI Dodge Mopar James Smith
2 Jimmy Spencer Berwick, PA Dodge Team ASE James Smith
02 Kelly Sutton** Crownsville, MD Chevrolet Team Copaxone Ed Sutton
4 Timothy Peters* Providence, NC Dodge Bailey's Bobby Hamilton
04 Bobby Hamilton Nashville, TN Dodge Bailey's Stephanie Hamilton
5 Mike Skinner Susanville, CA Toyota Toyota Tundra Bill Davis
6 Ron Hornaday Palmdale, CA Chevrolet GM Goodwrench DeLana Harvick
07 Chris Wimmer Wausau, WI Chevrolet Green Light Racing Gene Christensen
8 Deborah Renshaw Bowling Green, KY Dodge BHR2 Ray Montgomery
08 Jack Bailey Stafford, VA Chevrolet Green Light Racing Bobby Dotter
9 Justin Hobgood** Winnsboro, SC Toyota Germain Motor Company Bob Germain
10 Terry Cook Sylvania, OH Ford Power Stroke Diesel Greg Pollex
12 Joey Miller Lakeville, MN Toyota Toyota Tundra Darrell Waltrip
13 Tracy Hines New Castle, IN Chevrolet ThorSport Rcg/Zoriki Mtspts Duke Thorson
14 Rick Crawford Mobile, AL Ford Circle Bar Truck Corral Tom Mitchell
15 Kyle Busch Las Vegas, NV Chevrolet Billy Ballew Motorsports/ditech.com James Ballew
16 Mike Bliss Milwaukie, OR Chevrolet Chevy Trucks David Fuge
17 David Reutimann Zephyrhills, FL Toyota NTN Bearings Darrell Waltrip
18 Chase Montgomery Mt. Juliet, TN Dodge RoadLoans Bobby Hamilton
22 Bill Lester Oakland, CA Toyota SunTrust Bill Davis
23 Johnny Benson Grand Rapids, MI Toyota Aaron's Gail Davis
24 Wayne Edwards** Shepherdsville, KY Chevrolet Mighty Motorsports Rob Ferguson
29 Brad Keselowski Rochester Hills, MI Ford Samson Stone Kay Keselowski
30 Todd Bodine Chemung, NY Toyota Germain Motor Company Stephen Germain
38 Brandon Whitt El Cajon, CA Toyota DW Boogity Grill Tom DeLoach
46 Dennis Setzer Newton, NC Chevrolet Chevrolet Silverado David Dollar
50 Todd Kluever* Deerfield, WI Ford World Financial Group Jack Roush
59 Robert Pressley Asheville, NC Dodge Harris Trucking James Harris
62 Scott Lynch Burley, ID Dodge Lynch Mob Motorsports/The Orleans Michael Gaughan
63 Justin Allgaier** Riverton, IL Ford Dave Porter Truck Sales Michael Mittler
75 David Starr Houston, TX Chevrolet Spears Manufacturing Wayne Spears
77 Brendan Gaughan Las Vegas, NV Dodge Jasper Engines & Transmissions Michael Gaughan
88 Matt Crafton Tulare, CA Chevrolet Menards/Seal Best Rhonda Thorson
99 Ricky Craven Newburgh, ME Ford Superchips Jack Roush
106 Regan Smith*/** Cato, NY Chevrolet MRD Motorsports Dave Malcolmson
121 Bobby East** Brownsburg, IN Ford Wood Brothers/JTG Racing Tad Geschickter
133 Mark Martin** Batesville, AR Ford Roush Racing Jack Roush
135 Robert Richardson** McKinney, TX Chevrolet Richardson Racing Robert Richardson
165 Tim Fedewa** Holt, MI Dodge Glynn Motorsports Scott Glynn
185 Tyler Walker** Tulsa, OK Dodge Glynn Motorsports Scott Glynn
205 Erin Crocker** Wilbraham, MA Dodge Cheerios/Betty Crocker/Dodge Ram Stephanie Hamilton
260 Jack Sprague** Spring Lake, MI Toyota Jeff Wyler Toyota Jeffrey Wyler
* Denotes Rookie
** Denotes driver/team not in the top 30 in owners' points among teams with 24 attempts; must qualify on time (fastest 5 of 12 plus either Jack Sprague-2001 Truck champ or 6th-fastest of 12). All of these teams, as well as any other team, will need to qualify on time, find a past champ who ran this year, or transfer points from a team in the top 30 for the first 4 races next year.

51 posted on 11/17/2005 2:04:56 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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To: WestCoastGal
Speaking of scenarios, here's the one for qualifying for the 2006 Nextel Open next year before we get past Darlington (the top 50 in drivers' points at the end of 2005 and not eligible for the All-Star Challenge are eligible, as well as anybody in the top 50 after Darlington without a win), and believe it or not, it includes Herman...

- The top 48 in drivers' points who aren't locked in the All-Star Challenge (ending with Mike Garvey and including the not-entered Mike Wallace, Jason Leffler, Boris Said, Johnny Sauter, Hermie Sadler, Bill Elliot, and Martin Truex Jr.) are eligible because they can't fall below 50th in drivers' points.

- Mike Skinner (49th) clinches if he finishes 19th or better, 20th/better with a lap led, or 24th/better with the most laps led; OR if he qualifies and if Carl Long finishes 31st/worse with no laps led, 32nd/worse with a lap led, or 36th/worse with the most laps led, or doesn't qualify; OR if he doesn't qualify and if Carl Long finishes 20th/worse with no laps led, 22nd/worse with 1 lap led, or 25th/worse with the most laps led, or doesn't qualify.

- The idle Tony Raines (50th) clinches if Carl Long finishes 34th/worse with no laps led, 36th/worse with a lap led, or 37th/worse with the most laps led, or doesn't qualify; AND Kenny Wallace finishes 8th/worse with no laps led, 10th/worse with 1 lap led, or 11th/worse with the most laps led.

- Carl Long can clinch if he finishes 17th/better with no laps led, 19th/better with a lap led, or 22nd/better with the most laps led.

- Kenny Wallace needs some help, but he can get there; he's got 143 points to make up on Tony Raines and 80 on Carl Long, a top-notch organization, and unlike Long, a guaranteed spot in the race. Of course, he could win and skip right to the All-Star Challenge :-)

52 posted on 11/17/2005 2:48:26 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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To: WestCoastGal

Update on the 77 - Kodak and Travis Kvapil WILL be back at the #77 Penske/Jasper Dodge next year.


53 posted on 11/17/2005 2:50:28 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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To: steveegg
Busch entry:

88 Mark McFarland** Winchester, VA Chevrolet Navy "Accelerate Your Life" Dale Earnhardt, Jr

Way to go Jr getting one of the greatest sponsors out there and having your own team!

54 posted on 11/17/2005 3:03:44 PM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: steveegg

I guess in this case e-mailing isn't going to help Kenny!! :)

I just wish he could drive a car like the 97 that is top notch as far as equipment goes.


55 posted on 11/17/2005 3:09:13 PM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: fideist
Nascar.Com has picked Herm as their "dark horse" in their Fantasy Preview.

http://www.nascar.com/2005/games/11/17/preview.miami/index.html

56 posted on 11/17/2005 4:10:18 PM PST by fideist
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To: glock rocks
I don't dare take the thing over 70 now.

Bummer! I never get anywhere on time if I had to drive that slow.

57 posted on 11/17/2005 4:43:00 PM PST by SouthTexas (What part of NO don't you understand?)
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To: glock rocks; The Drowning Witch; All
This is the last race for two of my favorites of the old school, Rusty and Ricky. I will miss them both. It is also the last race for some drivers before moving to new teams. One of these is my modern-day favorite, Bobby Labonte. I am excited to see him in the #43 next season!

I have an older sister that lives in Lexington, N.C., and a friend of hers that works at JGR emailed her these pics of Bobby's last ride in the #18 Interstate Batteries Chevy. Looks like all the employees signed the car.

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58 posted on 11/17/2005 4:50:28 PM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: Jackknife

Wow those are big, my computer just went bonkers.

Good pics though.


59 posted on 11/17/2005 5:28:21 PM PST by WestCoastGal
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To: countrydummy
A big ping to number 58
60 posted on 11/17/2005 6:52:05 PM PST by tubebender (Chris Matthews suffers from "IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE"...)
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