Posted on 11/16/2005 2:00:47 PM PST by victim soul
2. In most jurisdictions, a Catholic hospital that accepts public funding is Catholic in name only because it must sell its soul for the public money.
Alberta is an interesting place because of its unusual system of allocating tax dollars to schools. Taxpayers actually check off which local school "district" (public or "separate") they want to support when they pay their school taxes, so religious schools actually get as much public funding as their supporters want to give them. The only problem is that most people who are serious about their religion will tell you that the Catholic schools are not much better than the public schools in most areas related to faith and morals.
Most Catholics I know in Alberta send their kids to completely private/religious schools.
Kosher delis should offer pork. I demand it!
Try anyway...
The same goes for schools in some parts of the country. I can tell you right now that the New York City would collapse tomorrow if the Catholic schools in this diocese were to close.
Or the government could withdraw their funds, if it really mattered to them.
the Catholic Church in the U.S. has driven itself into financial ruin by aiding and abetting pedophile priests in their illegal and immoral activities, and doesn't have much left over to fund things like faith-compliant medical facilities.
So. They've all been closed? No problem then.
In the greater context of this subject I find the evaporation good and the danger welcome.
Who knows what evil lurk in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!
The baby killers never sleep.
No government entity is financially relying on a Catholic hospital to care for its citizens. If the Catholic hospital closed, it would reopen the next day under new management (quite possibly government management), since most of the money it survives on is government money. The Catholic Church is certainly not pouring money into hospitals. Various Catholic agencies are in the hospital business to MAKE money.
As for NYC schools, the Catholic schools are closing bit by bit, so the slack will have to be taken up by public and other private schools.
No, they haven't closed. They are not receiving any significant amount of money from the Catholic Church or from any Catholic-affiliated organization.
In most jurisdictions, a Catholic hospital that accepts public funding is Catholic in name only because it must sell its soul for the public money.
That may be true, I don't know but in Alberta, that is not the case. Several hospitals are run by Catholic organizations, are publicly funded, and refuse to provide abortion services. It is not really an issue because abortion clinics also exist.
Alberta is an interesting place because of its unusual system of allocating tax dollars to schools. Taxpayers actually check off which local school "district" (public or "separate") they want to support when they pay their school taxes, so religious schools actually get as much public funding as their supporters want to give them. The only problem is that most people who are serious about their religion will tell you that the Catholic schools are not much better than the public schools in most areas related to faith and morals.
Not quite accurate. Alberta allocates funds to school districts which, theoretically, should be on a per pupil basis but in reality, are not - rural schools have higher per student funding. Catholic schools are funded separately because of the BNA Act. One cannot determine which school district one supports in Alberta: Those who sign a stat dec stating they are Roman Catholic can have their tax dollars allocated to the Separate (i.e. Catholic) School Board in the appropriate municipality.
However, a certain number of dollars follow students no matter what school they attend - public, Catholic, or "charter" schools (as long as they follow the Alberta curriculum, and are approved by Alberta Education, they can enroll students and receive funding.
I would also disagree on morals. I am not Catholic. I am an Albertan, however, and my children attend a Catholic school. Morals were not an issue. It just happened to be the best school in the community, and many of its students are not Catholic. There is a real emphasis on Christian faith. There is a requirement for respect of each individual. School starts with prayer, and from kindergarten, religion is a component. In first grade, each child is given a blessed rosary. In each year, there is an emphasis on a Christian theme - such as collecting supplies/coats/etc. for needy children, making lunches for the homeless, fundraising for an inner city school's field trip, etc.
Most Catholics I know in Alberta send their kids to completely private/religious schools.
Most Catholics I know in Alberta send their children to Catholic schools. Most Albertan children attend public schools. There are charter schools, but they are in the minority, because Alberta school boards offer such varied programs.
That certainly appears to be true. So what was the point about the Church in financial ruin if the Church never was an important funding source in modern times?
From American Atheist magazine, Fall, 2003:
In America, as of 1999, 13% of all hospitals were religious (totaling 18% of all hospital beds); that's 604 out of 4,573 hospitals. (6) Despite the presence of organized religion in America, the Church has managed to scrape together only a few hospitals. Of these 604 hospitals many are a product of mergers with public, non-sectarian hospitals. Not all of these 604 hospitals are Catholic; many are Baptist, Methodist, Shriner (Masonic), Jewish, etc. Despite the religious label, these so-called religious hospitals are more public than public hospitals. Religious hospitals get 36% of all their revenue from Medicare; public hospitals get only 27%. In addition to that 36% of public funding they get 12% of their funding from Medicaid. Of the remaining 44% of funding, 31% comes from county appropriations, 30% comes from investments, and only 5% comes from charitable contributions (not necessarily religious). The percentage of Church funding for Church-run hospitals comes to a grand total of 0.0015 percent.
So if the Church is in complete and total financial ruin, it threatens .0015 percent. Not a big threat.
Okay, first of all, if a woman's amniotic sac breaks she has 48 hours before anyone STARTS worrying about infection (in this case, Group B strep, aka GBS). Second, that infection can be taken care of with antibiotics (see homebirths where things are allowed to take their time and, if things take longer than 48 hours, the mom is given antibiotics). As far as ectopic pregnancies go, they are not viable and they can be fatal for the mom; in an ectopic pregnancy, the baby implants in the fallopian tube (or in VERY rare cases, in an ovary or in the cervix) and when the baby is large enough, the tube can rupture, causing hemorrhage and possibly death. It would be highly unlikely that any doctor in his right mind would send a woman with an ectopic pregnancy that had ruptured/was about to rupture eighty miles away; one assumes that he knew that she would be fine if the laparoscopic surgery she needed was postponed for two hours. I would question why on earth he would have the woman in a car rather than a Medevac chopper or an ambulance, but that isn't the point.
Finally I fail to see the connecton between the prevention of pre-eclampsia and sterilization (aside from the obvious that if a woman doesn't have any more children she cannot be pre-eclamptic again). No one knows for certain what causes preeclampsia; treatments are designed to reduce symptoms (swelling, high blood pressure, constriction of blood vessels).
Frances Kissling is about as Catholic as Chappaquidick Ted and Dick Haskell Durbin.
Since when did the Vatican approve of contraception at any time? Seems to me like that would be in direct violation of the Church's teaching on such matters.
Finally, I hate to break this to Planned Barrenhood (but I guess I will anyway): You have become the minority. No matter how much you shriek, you will continue to be ignored as the culture of life is accepted by an ever-growing number of people. Get over it.
I own a company that employs several hundred people. About 2/3's consist of sales folks....
I sent down a very clear dictum...
No business with Planned Parenthood or any subsidiary under any conditions. Period! The contract will never be approved.
Research is still being done on when antibiotics should be given to women when the amniotic sac breaks. As one who had this happen in two pregnancies (before labour), I can tell you that I was put on antibiotics immediately as a precaution.
I don't think there is a "culture of life" in the U.S. or, for that matter, anywhere in the Western world.
I do believe that the view of the fetus as just a conglomerate of cells, as pro choice advocates have maintained for decades, is being challenged (quite successfully, I think) because of science and photos which demonstrate just how "human" a very young fetus really is.
Good for you!! My wife has been on the local CPC board since its inception about 15 years ago. Last week I noticed that she had visited the PP website. I asked her was she spying on the enemy. She didn't admit it but I b'lieve that's exactly what she was doing.
Damn, you got Moxie.
I like that.
Heck, I can't claim complete credit....
My CFO and VP of sales supports this policy also....
These women who want to kill their babies can find themselves an abortion clinic. This is just a ploy to force religous hospitals to change their policies.
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