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1 posted on 11/16/2005 9:45:25 AM PST by jmc1969
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bummer


2 posted on 11/16/2005 9:49:09 AM PST by brivette
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Ping


3 posted on 11/16/2005 9:49:31 AM PST by Mo1
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Some BS here and some truth - But the underlying principle remains that Zarqawi has stayed alive / free because he continues to be able to operate within our OODA loop -

Shortening the circle of our OODA loop is key to killing him -

Of course, the simple notion of "luck" and/or "Mr. Murphy" play a role in this process as well. With regard to specific Ops that have happened.

Each week we are in Iraq our Intel and resources expand, thus making us more effective. And if these added strengths are implemented correctly our OODA loop should continue to shorten itself.

4 posted on 11/16/2005 9:49:59 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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Call me cynical...bu...I've just got this feeling....that...Some rats in our nest (the U.S.A.) are tipping off/giving al-Zarqawi a leg up...somehow.

I mean, I fully Realize that he's Definitely got some outside/inside help from some Higher-Ups somewhere...

...but it would be very Horrendous if it was something like Oliver North's Mission Compromised, where several US politicians are directly aiding/abetting the Jordanian.

5 posted on 11/16/2005 9:52:19 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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"Several times we have showed up at places where we know he was hours or days earlier. But the intelligence we get is never fresh enough," said the senior U.S. intelligence official.

If we could remove some of the bureaucracy (JAGs, and having 3 or 4 layers sign off on Ops) perhaps some of this Intel would be plenty fresh!

6 posted on 11/16/2005 9:56:47 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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The L.A. Slimes conveniently forgets that it was during the Clinton Administration that our intelligence services were gutted. I recall a bill sponsored by one Charles Schumer (Socialist-NY) requiring that only "high quality" people could be recruited as spies. Since the number of PhD candidates, members of the Country Club Board, and former aides to Mother Theresa generally do not have the inclination to do that kind of work, we had, in the past, used drug dealers, arms dealers, rum runners and assorted (sordid) ne'er do wells who were suited to the task. Since this offended Chuckie's sensibilities, we were left basically clueless in the run-up to 9/11, and remain severely hampered to this day.

For the libs to blame intelligence failures on Bush is the height of chutzpah. It's akin to poking out the bus driver's eyes and then complaining that he isn't staying between the white lines.

8 posted on 11/16/2005 9:57:01 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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So why isn't Zarqawi headlined as a terrorist mastermind? The same bunch of people doing the same thing in Amman are correctly labeled as terrorists. Why isn't Zarqawi?
10 posted on 11/16/2005 10:00:57 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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At least two top-secret, multi-agency commando teams .....
several U.S. officials familiar with the units said.

Well...they are no longer top-secret are they?
I would like the NAMES of these U.S. officials.

12 posted on 11/16/2005 10:03:51 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia trolls.)
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Remember a guy called Theodore J. Kaczynski

12 or 18 years to find. Very difficult to find. Hiding in the USA, stayed away from law enforcement. Every LEO in the Nation looking for him/her. Over 1 million LEO looking searching, and did not have to fight for thier live while searching.

How long, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years to capture??


15 posted on 11/16/2005 10:09:13 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (concealed carry)
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Chess games involve well-calculated moves and foresight. We'll catch him, and Osama, in due course. It's just a matter of waiting for that one mistake on which to capitalize.


19 posted on 11/16/2005 10:22:30 AM PST by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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Despite the recent arrest of one of his would-be suicide bombers in Jordan and some top aides in Iraq, insurgency mastermind Abu Musab Zarqawi has eluded capture, U.S. authorities say, because his network has a much better intelligence-gathering operation than they do.

I don't find "Mastermind" to be a negative term. It seems that the LA Times has great respect for Mr. Zarqawi.

22 posted on 11/16/2005 10:38:12 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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Another CIA success story.......


Not.


26 posted on 11/16/2005 11:37:22 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ("Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. " - Mohammed)
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"Insurgency mastermind," not "Terrorist butcher."

Easy to see who the LAT is rooting for.


27 posted on 11/16/2005 11:38:57 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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