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Truman bounced back -- so will Bush
Boston Globe ^ | 2005-11-16 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 11/16/2005 7:10:56 AM PST by veronica

WHY PRESIDENT Bush waited so long to respond to the baseless ''Bush lied" lie is a mystery. Perhaps he thought he had more to gain by remaining above the fray than by rolling up his sleeves and wading into it. Perhaps he imagined that because the slander was so brazen -- so easily refuted, so self-evidently untrue -- it wouldn't deceive the majority of Americans who supported his reelection last year.

Whatever his reasoning, it was a blunder to have said nothing as the lies about ''lies" piled up. Unrebutted accusations, even ridiculous ones, turn into conventional wisdom if they are repeated often enough. And disparaging conventional wisdom about a president takes a toll. According to the latest Gallup poll, only a minority of the public, 46 percent, now describe Bush as ''honest and trustworthy." Only 37 percent approve of the job he is doing as president, the lowest percentage yet.

Of course, Bush is not the first president to suffer a steep decline in popularity. With the exception of Dwight Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy, every president in the past 60 years has seen his approval rating sink at some point to 37 percent or worse.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1firstkeyword; bush; iraq; jobapproval; presidents; truman; wot
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1 posted on 11/16/2005 7:10:56 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica

Momentum. When it works against you, its better to act like a rock in the river and let it wash over you. When it starts to turn, that is when you apply maximum acceleration to get it moving as fast as possible in the opposite direction.

If Bush plays this well, it could turn out to leave him with a 60% rating by next year.


2 posted on 11/16/2005 7:13:03 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Paloma_55

Truman never bounced back during his term, hence he decided not to run in 1952.


3 posted on 11/16/2005 7:14:08 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: veronica

Bush cant fight his way out of a paper bag. The man cant debate, act like an elitist and ignores his base. RINOs are in power and they will continue to push us to the left. Damn if I will go willingly - I expect 06 and 08 to be big losses if things dont change dramatically.


4 posted on 11/16/2005 7:14:31 AM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: veronica

Does anybody remember President Truman giving reporters heck over their bad mouthing his daughters piano playing?


5 posted on 11/16/2005 7:14:52 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: veronica

Bush is fighting Republicans who control Congress and the Dem minority in Congress. Which president came back from that?


6 posted on 11/16/2005 7:15:06 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Truman never bounced back during his term, hence he decided not to run in 1952.

It was more than deciding not to run. He lost to Estes Kefauver in the 1952 New Hampshire Democrat primary. An incumbent President losing in his own party's primary is not "bouncing back."

7 posted on 11/16/2005 7:19:28 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: sasafras; Southack; PhiKapMom
Bush cant fight his way out of a paper bag.

Yeah!!!!

Well, except for two White House victories...
... and two gubernatorial victories...
... and neutering the United Nations...
... and getting conservative judges on the bench...
... and GOP majorities in the House, Senate, state legislatures, and governor mansions...
... and unprecedented fundraising...
... and destroying terrorist nests and networks instead of waiting for them to strike...
...and unprecedented House/Senate gains in 2002 and 2004...

Tell me, do you naturally post such stupidity, or is there some type of legal/illegal medication involved?

8 posted on 11/16/2005 7:19:57 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Plutarch

"It was more than deciding not to run. He lost to Estes Kefauver in the 1952 New Hampshire Democrat primary. An incumbent President losing in his own party's primary is not "bouncing back."

Didn't happen. He decided months before the campaign not to run and tried to recruit Eisenhower to the democratic ticket. Read David McCullouh's excellent book Truman. Great read. Harry was the last democratic president I could respect. A good, and honest, if mistake prone, man.


9 posted on 11/16/2005 7:21:59 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Plutarch

I believe the writer is referring to Truman in 1948.

In any case, Truman was a cut above Bush in many ways. He was, in particular, willing to engage his opponents directly and fight for his position.


10 posted on 11/16/2005 7:22:53 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: veronica

Bush and team also know that to help anyone with election campaigns it is best to wait within 3-4 months of an election. The American public has a short memory.

Sometime before the 2006 and 2008'2 some major things will happen like: WMD found in Syria, OBL and/or Zarqawi captured/killed, some troops come home, tightening the borders etc...

If done now it would be forgotten or spun by the dims.


11 posted on 11/16/2005 7:27:31 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Abraham Lincoln.


12 posted on 11/16/2005 7:28:28 AM PST by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

***Does anybody remember President Truman giving reporters heck over their bad mouthing his daughters piano playing?***

It was her singing that was panned by the Washington Post, and "Give 'em hell Harry" threatened to punch the critic in the nose. LOL!


13 posted on 11/16/2005 7:29:49 AM PST by kitkat (Democrat=Socialist=Communist. Hillary the RED)
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To: sasafras
Damn if I will go willingly - I expect 06 and 08 to be big losses if things dont change dramatically.

Of course you do. And I'll go you one better: You want that to happen.


14 posted on 11/16/2005 7:31:18 AM PST by rdb3 (Wheelchair? What wheelchair?)
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To: SmoothTalker
Truman was a closet racist and he didn't let MacArthur finish the job in Korea.

Great Democrat my behind....

15 posted on 11/16/2005 7:33:08 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: sasafras

With a mentality like yours who could expect anything diferent.


16 posted on 11/16/2005 7:34:11 AM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26)
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To: proxy_user

If so, the article is very misleading. Truman's basement like poll ratings didn't come until the second term.


17 posted on 11/16/2005 7:34:54 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: sasafras

"Bush cant fight his way out of a paper bag. The man cant debate, act like an elitist and ignores his base. RINOs are in power and they will continue to push us to the left. Damn if I will go willingly - I expect 06 and 08 to be big losses if things dont change dramatically."

Not going to change. Conservatives do not make up the majority in this country. Republicrats do. And you want them as close to your position as possible, same as the Liberals.

It seems to me that both the right and the left are pushing the middle away from them. If the Republicrats had a set on them and got some funding, I wouldn't be suprised to see Guiliani as President in 08.


18 posted on 11/16/2005 7:42:26 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: kitkat

Thanks, it was a long time ago.
Wasn't her name Margret?


19 posted on 11/16/2005 7:45:18 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: Coop
"Tell me, do you naturally post such stupidity, or is there some type of legal/illegal medication involved?"

I strongly supported Bush until the day he called minutemen "vigilantes."
20 posted on 11/16/2005 7:54:44 AM PST by Adiemus
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