Posted on 11/16/2005 7:05:02 AM PST by SheLion
Nearly everywhere except indian casinos, because it doesn't apply to them.
Now smokers, I know that you will be desperate to find a place to sit and have a smoke and a drink, but the indian casinos should not be rewarded for this... They did not merely sit back and shrug about this initiative, they FUNDED it in a big way, knowing they were excluded and could benefit from it.
Very similar language is actually contained in the Delaware statewide ban law.
But you're right, they do not really want to stop smoking, they just don't want to have to see it being done, even while reaping billions upon billions of dollars in revenue every year.
I wish Maine Indian's could have gotten away without being forced to go smoke free, but Maine forced the ban on them as well. We smoker's in Maine have NO place to go to sit and enjoy a drink and a cigarette. The lawmakers here even got to the casino's and our Indian's. 
This is why I voted "no", even though I don't smoke and I'm bothered by smoke around me in restaurants and bars.
No exception was made for private cigar clubs, which is flat out wrong. And staying 25 feet away from a door or window? That puts most smokers into the middle of the street.
Not to mention the personal freedom issue. If I don't want to be around smoke, I can find a restaurant that's smoke free. If I choose to go to one that's not, well, tough toenails to me.
Perhaps you didn't understand my post. I will be boycotting the indian casinos as well. The indians in our state FUNDED this initiative to ban smoking in bars, to the tune of millions, because they WANTED to ban smoking everywhere else, knowing they'd be the only game in town where people could smoke. I am tired of them funding initiatives that won't hurt them and only benefit them. They did the same thing on a slot machine initiative a few years back. They don't deserve the business.
Yes! It's time to stand up to reeky perfume!
We had a very nice lady at church who slathered it on so deep we knew she was on the premises five minutes before she came into view. Her perfume preceeded her everywhere she went.
Nobody dared say anything to her, we all just suffered in silence.
That's exactly how it should have worked out, SandyInSeattle. This smoking ban should have been left up to the business owner and his patrons. Not Nanny Government. This just opens the door to all kinds of restrictions put upon us.
Very good point.
OIC! I apologize! I "did" miss-read your post.
Well, that's too bad. They want all the business, and I can understand that, but to help force others into a ban is just wrong.
Maine lawmakers wouldn't allow our Indians to permit smoking. Everything went smoke free.
Thank you for your "no" vote, you obviously understand the underlying issues of this.
If there were more folks like you, with your type attitidue, we wouldn't be having this conversation and it would never have been an issue on your ballot.
I have nothing against a business choosing to be smokefree on their own, in fact my favorite Mexican place is smokefree.......alas they were closed when we thought to go there last night.....but I am absolutely opposed to government mandates such as this.
Yeah - I'm too pissed at them to even seek refuge there when I want to go out.
The problem with democracy is that reason falls 20% for each 10% of loss of representation; back when roughly 50% of adults were active smokers there was no movement to ban smoking other than where the ignition of flammable substances was a concern, now only about 20% of adults are smokers which places them about 100 feet below the radar screen of influence.
A super-majority of non-smokers now has the floor and no reason to relinquish it.
That might change. Even if I was torqued off at them, I would still go and spend my money because they accommodate everyone.
But Maine didn't have that choice. And I really miss going out to dinner and breakfast. Oh well...........
As long as no one tramples on your life and your rights, but to hell with the rest of us just because we use a legal commodity.
Nice guy there, Prof!
Well, it's not the only sin... there's also the bit about the salmon...
To heck with them. I'll stay home :~D
In Delaware it was the chains that backed the ban to include the bars and casinos. Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday's, Outback, etc.
They were all fighting the ban in the beginning and doing a good job - except they assured the legislators they would support it if the bars and casinos were added.
Even though I no longer live in Delaware, I will not spend a dime in any of those places ever again - even in areas where smoking is permitted.
peta is a lot less than 20%. so is greenpeace, or for that matter NOW.
And, for all their antics, they are still nuisance groups.
You wouldn't be suggesting that current smokers adopt PETA or Greepeace tactics to bring about a return to the adoption of smoking as a cultural attribute, would you?
Dunno. they might have something to teach us.
That's funny, it really is. One of the major funders, Robert Woods Johnson foundation, of the smoking bans is a big funder of PETA and some of their "advocacy" front groups.
Proponents of government mandated smoking bans are in bed with the PETA types - I hope they are happy :)
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