Posted on 11/16/2005 5:49:34 AM PST by conservativecorner
The President's speech or Sen. Rockefeller's head's-up to Syria?
Sorry, you are wrong here. I am a Pharm Chemist and have done RadioPharm work...external contamination is rare, and cleanable. Hell, my bangs got contaminated with P-32, and between cutting and cleaning I was ok.
A lot is made of the aluminum tube found in the garden of Saddam's chief nuke scientist. It is supposed to be the precision-machined aluminum tube used to make a centrifuge. Yet we know it takes thousands of centrifuges to produce enough material for a bomb in a five to ten year period, assuming enough electricity is available (live TVA in WW II). So, assuming that part is a prototype, where are all the rest of the machines? Where are the materials to be used to make them?
OK, for your info...let me give you an overview on UF-6 (Uranium Hexafluoride) and the importance of High Purity Aluminum tubes...allow me to bold certain passages...
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"Uranium hexafluoride, or UF6, is a compound used in the uranium enrichment process that produces fuel for nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons. It forms solid grey crystals at standard temperature and pressure (STP), is highly toxic, reacts violently with water and is corrosive to most metals. Higly pure refined Nickel is also impervious to UF-6
Milled uranium ore -- U3O8, or -- is dissolved in nitric acid, yielding a solution of uranyl nitrate UO2(NO3)2. Pure uranyl nitrate is obtained by solvent extraction, then treated with ammonia to produce ammonium diuranate (ADU). Reduction with hydrogen gives UO2, which is converted with hydrofluoric acid (HF) to UF4. Oxidation with fluorine finally yields UF6. It is used in both of the main uranium enrichment methods, gaseous diffusion and the gas centrifuge method, because it has a triple point at 64 °C (147 °F) and slightly higher than normal atmospheric pressure. Additionally, fluorine has only a single stable naturally occurring isotope, so isotopes of UF6 differ in their molecular weight based solely on the uranium isotope present.
Gaseous diffusion requires ca. 60 times as much energy as the gas centrifuge process; even so, this is just 4% of the energy that can be produced by the resulting enriched uranium."
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So,you see, the Lamestream mediots and the DemonRAT talking points that the Aluminum tubes were for missiles is crap! High Purity Aluminum is weak in tensile strength...not something one wants in a missile housing! Which is why those parst are made from alloys...not the most expensive, highly refined Pure Aluminum! The Aluminum in Centrifuge tubes needs to be as pure as possible, because the UF-6 will eat any impurity!
Saddam's folks welded fins on the tubes so weak-minded fools could say "Nope, nothing here"!
Seriously, unless you've been in the industry, you do NOT know what you are talking about.
As far as "where are all the other materials/parts"...allow me to aquiant you with the Bekka Valley in Syria...soon to be the Bekka Plains.
Also look to other Islamazi Nations that support the Koranimals...oh, and don't forget the 3 "Mysterious" Freighters that were roaming around right before and just after the Iraq Invasion!
The Niger forgery caper began as the result of an investigation by the French into illicit uranium mining and smuggling in 1999 - 2001. Not to defend that scumbag Wilson, but the people he spoke to may not have known about that and probably wouldn't tell him if they did:
European intelligence officers have now revealed that three years before the fake documents became public, human and electronic intelligence sources from a number of countries picked up repeated discussion of an illicit trade in uranium from Niger. One of the customers discussed by the traders was Iraq.Information gathered in 1999-2001 suggested that the uranium sold illicitly would be extracted from mines in Niger that had been abandoned as uneconomic by the two French-owned mining companies-Cominak and Somair, both of which are owned by the mining giant Cogema-operating in Niger.
"Mines can be abandoned by Cogema when they become unproductive. This doesn't mean that people near the mines can't keep on extracting," a senior European counter-proliferation official said.
I especially liked the way Le May was kept out of the loop on the thing, then blame for the abject failure was handed off to him by Mac Namara and JFK. Le May did NOT deserve that and in fact if he was involved, the thing would have succeeded. What a bunch of slimes JFK and his creatures were. JFK would go to Congress and lie that he had worked with the JCS on something and Le May would get the memo about 'it' 3 days later when his input would count for nothing. JFK was a perfect jacka*%!! The Kennedy administration's particular hostility to and ignorance of the military set the precedent for Billy Boy.
See my post #63 on illicit mining and smuggling. This was also reported in the Washington Times. Yes, there was intent on Saddam's part.
Finally, the claims of Iraqi pursuit of natural uranium in Africa are, in INR's assessment, highly dubious.
Only because of the forgeries (your report is dated 2003).
As for the aluminum tubes, high strength aluminum is a nuclear dual-use item, which means it has both nuclear and non-nuclear uses. Iraq was banned from possessing aluminum tubing above a certain strength under Security Council resolutions, unless these items are imported through the UN, used for civilian or non-banned purposes, and were subject to monitoring by inspectors. So...if you figure that they had the capability to procure these items legally, but under supervision, and instead they decided to procure them illegally, then the logical assumption (IMHO) would be that they were intended for illicit operations.
And for the CIA and INR to depend on the IAEA to collaborate their facts is a hoot. That is the same IAEA that said N. Korea was in compliance, until the "OOPS!"...well, you know the rest of the story.
pinging to myself
Why would I want to read what the CIA and INR have to say when they have failed so miserably to get it right? That thing is worse fiction than the 9/11 Commission report.
The nay sayer already claimed victory in his own mind. nothing will change this now except..... When these WMD (which don't exist according to the Bush/US hating liberal) resurface; which they will. Syria at some point will either use or threaten to use them.
Then, just like the anti-nuke morons of the past, the non-believing anti war pundit will quickly forget his error.
They have highly selective memory.
Ask if Reagan had anything to do with bringing down that wall.
Ask if nuclear deterrence worked.
They will have forgotten all that as they will their position on Iraq after it's all done.
Red6
You would seem a lot more credible if you didn't use made-up words like "indeliable."
I printed out the NIE report.
Bottomline in spades, WMD's in IRAQ verfied from many sources. eight pages long.
Most these WMD threads really pose two questions:
Did we find WMD?
On what basis did we go to war?
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Mediarats forget the other 22 reasons we cleaned out IRAQ.
Failure to abide by multiple resolutions to disarm (even by Hans Blix standards), including the final Res. 1441 , forcing Bush on March 17, 2001 to demand that Saddam go into exile or face war. Saddam refused. Period. The rest is icing...let them [the Dems] eat [yellow] cake, like the selfish children they are. Just like my mama used to do when I didn't eat my veggies at dinner, we will save the crow for their breakfast and they will eat it cold.
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