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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I've used terminology related to design and how it applies in this case. It escapes you, most likely out of willful ignorance.

Design entails the arrangement of matter in such a way as to be organized and purposeful. Atoms do not fly apart because they are designed to retain their respective pattern of form and behavior. If design is not responsible for atoms retaining their form, then what, scientifically speaking, is?


999 posted on 11/18/2005 7:26:05 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"I've used terminology related to design and how it applies in this case. It escapes you, most likely out of willful ignorance. "

You've said that organized matter was design. I am asking for a real definition of design, yet you refuse to provide one.

"Design entails the arrangement of matter in such a way as to be organized and purposeful. Atoms do not fly apart because they are designed to retain their respective pattern of form and behavior. If design is not responsible for atoms retaining their form, then what, scientifically speaking, is?"

All you have described is order, not design. Atoms do not fly apart because that is their NATURE. We have no way of knowing HOW that nature originated, it's not a scientific question. Could have been a designer, could just *BE*. Science is agnostic as to this question.

"I said nothing about the origins of matter. I am discussing the ability of matter to retain its consistency and transmit information."

Yes you did, you said,

"I'm still waiting to hear your scientific alternative to intelligent design as causative of organized matter."

You were asking for the cause of organized matter, and I rightly said that this is not a question that science can answer. Please, for everybody's sake, loosen that vice on your head. :) Now, what is science?
1,004 posted on 11/18/2005 7:35:34 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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