[CarolinaGuitarman]

"No. We see the object first, make inferences from there, and then pursue the knowledge that would confirm our inference. What do you mean "only because?" It's simple science, but science nevertheless."

If we had no outside knowledge about what a human being designs, what our capabilities are, there wouldn't be a way to say that something was designed over it was the product of some natural process.

[Fester Chugabrew]

If we had no outside knowledge about what a human being designs, . . .

But we're not dealing with "ifs" are we? We're dealing with scientific realties. It is a scientific reality that both intelligence and design can be scientifically identified, even intuitively.