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To: r9etb; Liberal Classic; furball4paws
[furball4paws:] The "inventor" of ID, Behe, says the designer is God. [...] Behe said under oath at the dover trial that he thinks the designer is God.

[Liberal Classic:] No, I'm going to back him up on this. Behe said, under oath, quote, "the designer is God" unquote.

[r9etb:] Fine. Give me the quote, "transcript," unquote, so that we can see his exact words, in context, rather than taking it on your say-so. Not too much to ask, eh?

Not at all:

Q. Well, people have asked you your opinion as to who you believe the designer is, is that correct?
A. That is right.
Q. Has science answered that question?
A. No, science has not done so.
Q. And I believe you have answered on occasion that you believe the designer is God, is that correct?
A. Yes, that's correct.

-- Michael Behe direct examination by attorney Robert Muise, in trial transcript of Kitzmiller v Dover Area School District, October 17, 2005, Morning Session, pages 94-95.


Q. [...reading from Behe's own book:] "Thus, in my judgment it is implausible that the designer is a natural entity." You don t absolutely rule it out, but you re not taking it very seriously, are you?
A. Well, I ve said that quite a number of times. I think I said that at the beginning of my testimony yesterday, that I think in fact from -- from other perspectives, that the designer is in fact God.

-- Michael Behe cross-examination by attorney Eric Rothschild, in trial transcript of Kitzmiller v Dover Area School District, October 18, 2005, Afternoon Session, page 100.


Q. Now, you ve said in your testimony today and yesterday you personally believe the designer is God.
A. Yes.
Q. And in this article in fact you say for purposes of the discussion I m going to assume the supernatural entity is God, right?
A. Yes.

-- Michael Behe cross-examination by attorney Eric Rothschild, in trial transcript of Kitzmiller v Dover Area School District, October 18, 2005, Afternoon Session, page 103.


451 posted on 11/16/2005 3:48:44 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

It won't make any difference. You could have Behe knock on his door and say "Hi, I'm Mike Behe and the Designer is God" and he wouldn't believe it.

It's a problem with sneaking, twisting and lying. If you do it, you expect everyone is doing it too.

He won't answer you question either.


463 posted on 11/16/2005 4:09:24 PM PST by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Ichneumon
Thanks for the quotes.

However, could you please provide the link? Your past behavior as regards excerpts has not inspired my confidence that you have provided a full and accurate portrayal of Behe's remarks even now.

If you promise to post the link, I promise to respond directly to what Behe said -- of course, that means all of what he said.

540 posted on 11/16/2005 7:45:55 PM PST by r9etb
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