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To: b_sharp
You have created a universe where everything and anything that can be construed as having 'order' is evidence of a designer, a designer that you have given the power to not only 'create' irrespective of the laws of physics but can also interfere at will with the observation, investigation and testing of all phenomena.

Excuse me, but I am only one small object of the creation, not the Creator. Furthermore, the Creator no more receives power from me than the sun receives power from plants. And although the Creator may indeed overstep what has typically been observed in my lifetime, science can, and does, carry on in discovering more and more evidence of intelligent design, single strands of DNA and cubic inches of water being small cases in point.

But it is your responsibilty to explain to the rest of us what might reasonably, scientifically, otherwise be behind the existence of this order; these physical attributes. Tell me why atoms retain their consistency if it is not due to any element of intelligence or design. It is a question your method of science cannot begin to address. It can only sit on its hands and say, "Duh. We don't know, and we can't know."

You'd sell science for a cheap pile of philosophy.

1,134 posted on 11/18/2005 3:26:47 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Excuse me, but I am only one small object of the creation, not the Creator. Furthermore, the Creator no more receives power from me than the sun receives power from plants.

You truly are a literalist. You gave the designer those powers in your argument, not literally. "he lets hang his tail like a cedar"

"And although the Creator may indeed overstep what has typically been observed in my lifetime, science can, and does, carry on in discovering more and more evidence of intelligent design, single strands of DNA and cubic inches of water being small cases in point.

DNA and water only show evidence of a designer in the minds of those that desperately need their belief system reinforced.

1,139 posted on 11/18/2005 4:02:49 PM PST by b_sharp
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