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To: Fester Chugabrew
"The physical evidence continues to reveal, as it should, order and design.

No, the physical evidence continues to reveal 'order' and regularity from which our primate brains discern patterns. You claim - nothing but a bald assertion - that this is because of design. We claim it is because of the physical attributes of the universe. By the way, 'laws' are nothing but descriptions of the observation of highly consistent phenomena.

1,117 posted on 11/18/2005 2:36:03 PM PST by b_sharp
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To: b_sharp
'laws' are nothing but descriptions . . .

Speaking of bald assertions. Laws are more than "descriptions." They have been in operation prior to being described. Just like intelligent design, they precede science, and are attendant to science. Otherwise, you've only made further elaboration upon the fact you are unwilling to grant science the latitude it ought to enjoy. As such, you are in a rut. Don't worry. You're not alone. There are plenty of narrow-minded ideologues and their cheerleaders in your kamp.

My understanding of intelligent design and its involvement in the universe does not in the least stifle scientific inquiry or "make science impossible." It encourages it. Furthermore, it does not insist upon "my Christian God," as you say. Frankly it comes as no surprise that you find science where there is none, and vise versa.

1,122 posted on 11/18/2005 2:52:35 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: b_sharp
We claim [order] is because of the physical attributes of the universe.

Well good gawd, pal. What are the physical attributes of the universe that completely exclude information for our "primate brains" to recognize and comment upon? If they had no order, i.e. design, or physical attributes science may not even notice them.

Is it scientifically possible to detect intelligence?

1,129 posted on 11/18/2005 3:09:23 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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