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To: Fester Chugabrew

What is unscientific is to make the claim, say it is proper to assume it to be and leave it there. Which is exactly what you do.

Form testing that would facilitate proving your assumption.
Do that testing and draw conclusions from that testing that support or refute your original position. Rework your original assumption(if need be), form tests, draw conclusion from them.........wet, lather, rinse, repeat.....

You, in essence, state that making a claim coming from feeling is all that is needed to qualify it as scientific. Stopping there is indeed unscientific. Take notice, it just doesn't Fit.

I would offer to you that what you do with this topic is like starting your engine at the Indy 500 and never putting the car in gear to run the race. Then still claiming you ran the Indy 500. Claiming it is proper to assume you ran the race because you started your engine. AND THEN, claim anyone that attempts to see anything other than the 'start your engine' portion is wrong for doing so.


1,075 posted on 11/18/2005 12:39:38 PM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression

All of scientific thought and testing is formulated in such a manner as to uncover, and understand, intelligent design. Or do you think the aim of science is to uncover chaos? Intelligent design is both the subject and object of science. It is manifest both inductively and deductively. Those who think science is something else are blowing philosophical smoke.


1,077 posted on 11/18/2005 12:44:11 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: BlueStateDepression
You, in essence, state that making a claim coming from feeling . . .

Not once have I said that I "feel" the heavens and the earth are the product of intelligent design. Not once. An inference is not just an emotion, or a feeling. It is based upon evidence, and the evidence for intelligent design consists of the organized, predictable, consistent, tangible, dynamic behavior of matter as it functions under predictble, consistent laws. Not coincidentally, when humans design machines they want all of those qualities and more to apply.

1,081 posted on 11/18/2005 12:49:48 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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